Battlestar Galactica 4x18: "Islanded in a Stream of Stars"

Discussion in 'Battlestar Galactica & Caprica' started by Agent Richard07, Mar 6, 2009.

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Grade the episode...

  1. Excellent

    26.2%
  2. Above Average

    41.9%
  3. Average

    22.5%
  4. Below Average

    7.3%
  5. Poor

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  1. Agent Richard07

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  2. Robert Maxwell

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    This episode looks so depressing. I'm all over it. :D
     
  3. hxclespaulplayer

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    Be a bit more creative with the images - I would have put a desert island superimposed over a starscape...
     
  4. tomalak301

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    I hope this episode blows me away. I want to like this final set of episodes and join in the celebratory crowd here but I feel like such a downer. Just please finish the season strong. :(
     
  5. DBR

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    This is the first Friday since the show's break that I've been able to watch the episode over the air (as opposed to downloading it over the weekend).

    I'm going to make popcorn.

    Fuckin' A. :D
     
  6. kipron

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    the show is as good as it has ever been, if not better.

    BSG has always been about drama first, art second, mythology a distant third, and hard scifi even further behind that.
     
  7. tomalak301

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    Yeah, and I appreciate that. I just want to be interested and intrigued in that drama. I feel it's been a bit stiff lately.
     
  8. kipron

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    it's always been a bit stiff, imho.

    BSG isn't a "human" drama like SFU, much as it wants to be. But that's the price you pay for watching a story that includes politics, mythology and fantasy. Even in part.

    I mean, ffs. Starbuck was having a heart to heart with her supposedly dead, incorporeal Cylon dad, Tyrol's upset because his kid isn't half robot, Roslin is struggling to be a good holy figure and when Lee gets disappointed by his father, it's because he just ordered an assasination or something.

    These are not things that you'd expect everyone to really relate to. :lol:
     
  9. Agent Richard07

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    I don't know about that. It's definately strong on drama, but at the same time, it's a mixture of all the rest. As much as I like Six Feet Under and think it's one of the best dramas ever made, I wouldn't want BSG to be that. BSG is still scifi and I wouldn't want it to pretend that that aspect of the show isn't important.
     
  10. kipron

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    I disagree somewhat. Imho the scifi elements are just a stage for the drama. And I don't really care what happens to the stage after the drama is over.

    Still, I do agree that BSG is it's own thing, and shouldn't try to be like anything else.
     
  11. Agent Richard07

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    At this point, most of the characters are intertwined with the mythology or the scifi aspect of the show. I can't see how they could easily seaparate the two.

    I don't think the mythology is just a stage, It's part of the story that's unfolding and I'm hoping that it gets a satisfying conclusion. For example, I do want to know what Starbuck is, why she came back and why she's important, or at least something along those lines. Just having her "reconcile with her dad" isn't enough. It would be for a show like Six Feet Under, but not here.
     
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  12. Jiraiya

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    Looks like some folks get spaced in this one.
     
  13. kipron

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    Heh. I think it would be kinda cool if they don't reveal any of that. Questions are always more interesting than answers..
     
  14. Agent Richard07

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    ^ Depends on what they don't answer. Sometimes having things open to speculation is good and sometimes you just feel as if you've been left hanging. Earth's time period doesn't necessarily matter, but other things like the Opera House or Starbuck should get something more than what we have so far.
     
  15. tomalak301

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    If they don't answer the important questions, than that makes the series kind of worthless IMO.
     
  16. kipron

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    Not to me. But then, I wasn't watching for answers.
     
  17. Agent Richard07

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    "There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza..." :lol:

    Lots of good stuff. Good build-up. Above Average.
     
  18. startrekwatcher

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    The writers don't seem to realize that repeatedly having Tighe speaking about how upset he is over his baby's death doesn't make a tragedy that failed to resonate two episodes ago any more impactful on the third or fourth time. I'm thinking "this has all happened before and will happen again" is the writers' mantra. I thought hooking up Anders might reveal new intriguing information. No we learn for the third or so time Starbuck is the harbinger of death. We see the Opera House visions but nothing new is added just the same chase sequence. I could have done without the roadtrip confessional onbard the stolen raptor between Boomer and Hera. I would have much rather jumped straight to the colony in order to spare us the insight we already heard last week but of course we can't reach it until the end of the series because the writers don't have enough material. Meh. We see HeadSix but she doesn't provide anything interesting--she's just a model sporting the latest in gowns. This was what her fourth appearance this season and nothing has been done with her to contribute in furthering the story. This show is in some serious need of some storytelling viagra because it is flaccid.

    Funeral service did nothing for me. Meh.

    Adama wouldn't let Helo take a raptor to look for Hera yet he remained behind in one to wait for Roslin. Hypocritical.

    No surprise that the only things, however sparse they were, that generated the least bit of interest on my behalf were tied to the show's intriguing mythology. But I do mean they were sparse.

    Once again the only reason for this episode to exist was to fill another episode slot as part of a ten episode season and to impart a few bits of teasing and set up. Nothing significant about Starbuck, her father, the Opera House, the Opera House vision, the Final Five and the mysterious entities that warned them of the attack etc. Maybe I should just watch the final five minutes of the show from now on. The final scene has been one of the few that has generated any sort of sense of melancholy appropriate for a show ending its run. I like the idea of Adama letting go.

    The visual effects shot of Boomer arriving at the colony was FANTASTIC and imaginative and awe-inspiring but the rest of the episode M-E-H!

    Below average with a few and I mean few above average moments.
     
  19. Robert Maxwell

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    Weird, but good. Definitely feel like it's the end of the series. It feels like an intro to the finale, so I'm not sure I can give it an accurate rating without seeing the final eps.
     
  20. Brent

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    Average Episode for BSG, very good, I'm saving my Excellent for the finale ;)

    Sounds like Adama is gonna take the Galactica for one last fight.

    Balta is an ass, but in the end might have done Kara a favor, at least it is out in the open now, and she doesn't have to hide, its a load off her shoulders, as she said, she has accepted it now.

    I am interested to see where the song takes them.