Battlestar Galactica 4x12: "A Disquiet Follows My Soul"

Discussion in 'Battlestar Galactica & Caprica' started by Agent Richard07, Jan 23, 2009.

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Grade the episode...

  1. Excellent

    21.1%
  2. Above Average

    44.2%
  3. Average

    24.7%
  4. Below Average

    7.4%
  5. Poor

    2.6%
  1. Hermiod

    Hermiod Admiral Admiral

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    Hmmmm, I thought so - the woman who played Ishay was Kerry Norton, Jamie Bamber's wife.

    She was the medic who saved Adama's life way back in "Scattered".
     
  2. Hyperspace05

    Hyperspace05 Commodore Commodore

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    Below Average - How disappointing after last weeks excellent episode to again be rehashing/recovering the least interesting aspects of the show. (which has many excellent other attributes)
    - Zarek being an ass - been there, done that.
    - Soap-opera relationships - I've had more then my fill on this series.
    - Mutiny in the fleet - Yawn. Wake me up when its over.

    Oh and I just *love* how upset everyone is now... acting like Adama & Roslin made them go find earth at gunpoint. Right, they never wanted to do that at all. :rolleyes: They had such great plans to do other things. :rolleyes:

    Gaeta needs a swift kick out the airlock.
     
  3. The Borg Queen

    The Borg Queen Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Pretty rubbish in comparison to the one before it.

    Sorry.

    No Cylons = No interest.
     
  4. MyCylon

    MyCylon Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    No Cylons?
     
  5. The Borg Queen

    The Borg Queen Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well other than the scene with the ultrasound, there wasn't much Cylonny goodness in the episode.
     
  6. TheGodBen

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    I gave it an excellent, I just really liked the Gaeta/Starbuck scene. Not every episode needs to be a tour de force to be excellent television; this episode was a quiet follow-up to the events of last week, and I thought it worked well at what it was trying to do. Yes, it was a set-up episode, but it was a very good set-up episode.
     
  7. MyCylon

    MyCylon Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But what about the whole discussion between Adama, Tigh, Tyrol, and Gaeta (am I forgetting somebody)? Tyrol's clearly made a shift towards accepting being a Cylon and identifying with his people. His suggestion concerning Cylon citizenship opens up a huge debate which informs much of the episode.
    Also, the rift between Tigh and Tyrol was very interesting, I thought.

    I suppose it's something else you're looking for, but from my point of view, the Cylons figured in heavily here.
     
  8. QCzar

    QCzar Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I think some of the threads retreaded in this episode, while somewhat derivative, do highlight why the Fleet needed a "goalpost" to begin with. Without some singular purpose, it seems like they always come unhinged.

    A lot of folks keep harking on about how this is a setup episode and while that's probably true, it is certainly not the best of these types. In the end, for me, the character moments were compelling as usual (Gaeta and Zarek less so), but the actual story was trite.

    I'll reserve actual scoring to see if next week's episode justifies this one.
     
  9. Harvey

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    Average.

    The Zarek plot is interesting, and believable. I don't object to it being old ground, because it's exactly what I would expect to happen given the events of past episodes.

    Tyrol's revelation is an example of a ret-con in the service of the plot, but not of particular service to the characters. It's not soap opera, because it does have purpose, but it is sloppy writing (there was no way to get around Nicky without sloppy writing).

    I'm not sure I buy the immediate change in direction to Baltar's storyline. It seemed like a scene, at least, was missing. Maybe on the DVD?
     
  10. Maab of the Ten Tribes

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    I'm giving it above average. Like others here i think the dookey is going to hit the fan next week whereas this ep is the lead-in to that.
     
  11. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Above Average - seems like largely setup for bigger things, but good in its own right.

    Finally Zarek bares his fangs - I've been waiting for that for four frakkin' years now. :rommie: Gaeta and Starbuck snarling at each other was a good scene. Tyrol abandoning Nicky just because the kid doesn't have his DNA was pretty cold and destroys whatever sympathy I had for the character.

    The only thing that bugged me is no Sam. :( What the frak is going on with him? Has Starbuck reconciled herself to being married to a Cylon? Or are recent events just going to make her even more surly than ever?

    Poor Sam, you know Gaeta is going to be angrier about that particular Cylon than all the others, even tho the whole leg thing was unavoidable and Sam shouldn't be blamed. (Plus, didn't Sam bail on the kangaroo court that was sentencing Gaeta?)

    Oh yeah and Baltar's storyline continues to be pointless and Roslin's skullcap is way too obvious...they shoulda made her shave her head for the show! :p

    But that's just how people are when things go south - looking for someone to blame and afflicted with sudden, conveeenient amnesia regarding their own behaviors and attitudes. ;)
     
  12. WeAreTheBorg

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    He didn't. He's simply passing on some responsability to the actual father while he deals with other stuff. Seems fair. Remember, Hotdog says "until when?", and he says "till I get back". He has no intention of abandoning Nicky.
     
  13. The Borg Queen

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    He actually said until he sobers up, but yeah.

    He's had a lot to deal with, finding out he's a Cylon and that it may be the reason for Cally's suicide and now revelation of Nicky not even being his child.

    He isn't rejecting Nicky, he just needs some support to look after him because he's not really in the best place right now.
     
  14. Harvey

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    I wonder if Sam wasn't present due to Michael Trucco's car accident injuries he suffered during the writer's strike?
     
  15. McCoy

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    How in the world is Sam not responsible for Gaeta's leg? No one forced or even ordered him to shoot Gaeta. He made that decision on his own. I was shocked he wasn't strongly disciplined, until I saw the deleted scene on the DVD that showed nobody was willing to say what happened. I'm still kind of surprised that Adama would let that go considering how extensive the injury was.
     
  16. The Borg Queen

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    What, you mean the whole "mutiny" thing?

    Yeah, I can see why they'd prefer to keep the circumstances surrounding the shooting to themselves.
     
  17. Jerikka Dawn

    Jerikka Dawn Commander Red Shirt

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    IMO, I believe Lee needs to seriously step up right now and put everyone in their place. Romo needs to show up, pull a gun on Lee, make him open a bag full of Jake, whereapon Lee goes "Oh Gods, you gotta be fracking kidding me!" and Romo gives him a kick in the ass to lead The Fleet.

    You are absolutely right and I think this episode is a great example of what happens to a society when there is no leadership.
     
  18. Gregsmack

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    :lol:
     
  19. Snaploud

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    Why is everybody assuming that Tyrol "abandoned" the baby? All he did was leave Hotdog alone with it for a while. Hotdog needs to do some bonding, and Tyrol said that he would return for another "shift" later. Obviously, they can't have a serious conversation about living arrangements until Hotdog has some time to get used to the situation. Yes, it seems likely that Tyrol is not going to be the primary caregiver, but we don't know that for certain. And we have a hint that he'll at least be around to help out.
     
  20. Seven of Five

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    I've only wathced the episode once but in the scene where Hotdog asks how long he should stay, Tyrol says 'I'll be back when I'm sober' (or words to that effect). To me it just seemed like he was ditching the kid who has been essentially his with someone he doesn't know very well, in order to drink. It seemed harsh when I first saw it, especially when you take into accound Tyrol accepting his Cylonicity in the episode. Nicky is his last human link, will he end up severing that totally?

    Like I said though, only seen it once. Might interpret it differently next time.