Spoilers Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Commander Richard, Mar 17, 2016.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    4.5%
  2. A

    10.5%
  3. A-

    10.5%
  4. B+

    14.1%
  5. B

    11.8%
  6. B-

    5.9%
  7. C+

    7.7%
  8. C

    10.0%
  9. C-

    6.4%
  10. D+

    6.8%
  11. D

    5.0%
  12. D-

    3.6%
  13. F

    3.2%
  1. Ovation

    Ovation Vice Admiral Admiral

    I rewatched it this morning. Looked awesome on my (relatively) new projector. Was very entertaining (I like it more each time I see it). But I'll never watch the theatrical version again (unless I have to do a comparison--can't imagine why). Not all extended/director cuts are better than the theatrical, but this one certainly is.
     
  2. theenglish

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    They're not supposed to be any more accurate about the worst films than the Oscars are about the best. They're really about listing big name movies that were disappointments (supposedly) for one reason or another. And while a lot of crap does get nominated there are often memorable films as well, and even occasionally a movie gets nominated for both an Oscar and a Razzie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Raspberry_Award_for_Worst_Picture#1980s
     
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  3. crookeddy

    crookeddy Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    When I first saw this movie I disliked it because it wasn't the movie I wanted. When I rewatched it, I watched it as the movie it is, not the movie I wanted it to be, and enjoyed it far more. Having said that it has some serious problems with pacing, editing, the theatrical cut doesn't even make sense, and why does Batman have psychic powers??
     
  4. dodge

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    "Gilgamesh lacked likeability and was a bit too brooding for a superpowered king bloke, Enkindu's death was forced and was too deus ex machina, and that whole bit with the Utnapishtim was superfluous and should have been saved for the sequel."
     
  5. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

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    I figured it was more something seeping into his subconscious thanks to the Flash bending reality with his time travel or something.
     
  6. crookeddy

    crookeddy Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    That still feels like Batman has a power - he is attuned to the universe of something. The whole appeal of Batman is that he has no powers... so giving him any kind of abilities is a bad idea...
     
  7. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

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    I like to think it's a side-effect of being next to the Flash while he's time traveling at you. It could happen to anybody, not just Batman.
     
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  8. Skywalker

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    Plenty of people like bad movies.
     
  9. Tosk

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    I know I do. :)
     
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  10. dodge

    dodge Commodore Commodore

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    Plenty of people don't like good movies ;)
     
  11. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Absolutely. I admit to having an inexplicable attachment to Roger Corman's Fantastic Four. On the other hand, I recognize it as a bad movie and don't recommend it to others.
     
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  12. LJones41

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    Yeah, I'm amazed at how many people like "Deadpool" and harbor the belief that "Captain America: Civil War" was the best movie in the MCU franchise.
     
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  13. N-121973

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    Does anyone else think it's time that the opinion poll atop this thread should be reposted given that it refers to the theatrical cut and there's now an alternative version out there?
    On the subject of award ceremonies is that it seems (and I'm sure someone will set me straight on this) that the only films that seem to be nominated - at least for the big awards - are all released no sooner than autumn? In the UK there have been instances where films have been nominated for the BAFTAs that had yet to be released in the UK. I believe that was cynically designed to attract more big-name American stars to attend the ceremony.
    By the way the most awkward moment in an awards show? Many moons ago the BAFTAs film & TV awards were combined like the Golden Globes and the late Tony Curtis was going to be awarded I think with a lifetime achievement award. And one of the nominees for best documentary featured a clip of Jamie-Lee Curtis talking about her parents marriage. Ouch I squirmed, imagine how he must have felt seeing his daughter up on the big screen talking about him if only for a minute or so.
     
  14. JD

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    I don't think that had anything to do with Batman, it was purely The Flash sending a message back in time. I'm pretty sure it's going to be explained in the Justice League.
    I just watched this for the first time since I saw it in theaters, and I still really enjoyed it.
    It's not a perfect movie by any stretch, but for me the good still outweighs the bad. I think it's biggest issue was just that it rushed into things a bit too quickly, and tried to do too much in one movie.
     
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  15. crookeddy

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    They also completely wasted the death of Superman! We barely knew the guy. He has an origin movie, a movie where he seems to be the guest and now he is dead? No emotional resonance.
     
  16. Anwar

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    Especially since it's totally obvious he'll be back soon.
     
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  17. dodge

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    Due to a tiny flat and a lack of free walls I'm cursed to watch it on a regular TV. ;)
    It's still awesome though, I don't think Snyder gets nearly enough credit for just how good the movie looks.

    This was the third time I've seen Ultimate Cut, but I've only seen the Theatrical once. I honestly can't remember when was the last time I've seen the same movie 4 times within a year.
    I might just go with the Theatrical next time, and use that as an excuse to watch it again soon, because technically I haven't seen that in a while and never on a small screen :D
     
  18. Ovation

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    I don't always like his aesthetic choices (among his films I've seen), but I'm never bored by them. And, for years (long after most people I know had some kind of HDTV), I still had a standard CRT (a good one in its day). However, I have always had (since my teens) a very good sound system. Whether stereo or surround, it has always been hooked up to the video gear. I'd rather have a small screen and very good sound than a big one with crappy sound. Even a decent pair of headphones will enhance the experience if in a small space with easily bothered neighbours.


    There are times I prefer the theatrical release but in this case, much like Ridley Scott's Kingdom of Heaven, the longer cut is so much better that going back to the original release never occurs to me.
     
  19. USS Firefly

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    SPOILER alert!!!!! ;)
     
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  20. M.A.C.O.

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    I just finished (re)watching BvS and CACW back to back, and outside of the theatrical cut's problems with editing and pacing, I say the biggest thing that made a difference at the BO for the two movies was what I call moments of awesome. Civil War had so many Marvel heroes featured (including The AMAZING Spider-Man) and it gave the audience a lot of good action to digest. BvS has good action, but it nearly all comes in the last third of the movie. At past the hour and 35 minute mark. That's a long frikkin time.

    The Martha moment from BvS and the Maria moment in CACW don't bother me and made sense for both Bruce and Tony's respective characters.

    Zemo and Lex's unbelievably convoluted plans, that were executed to near perfection due to coincidences (plot) still baffle me.