Bad news for V remake

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by 23skidoo, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. Tulin

    Tulin Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Indeed!

    I almost spat out my coffee when I read the OP's line, "the much anticipated...."

    Anticipated by WHO?!?


    Hell, I am anticipating SG:U, Dexter and many other shows. V was NOT one of them.

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  2. Ancient Mariner

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    You can count me as someone who was, at the very least, looking forward to seeing a new take on the V concept -- though, I seriously doubt any reincarnation can match the character and thematic work of the original mini-series. And even though the trailers didn't do a whole for me, personally, I'm still disappointed that the series itself seems doomed before it even airs.

    As for V:The Second Generation ... it really is a terrible novel. The worst part, aside from the writing, characters and pacing, is that the plot is entirely unoriginal. Kenneth Johnson was so ticked off at the direction that V: The Final Battle was taking, that he left the project. But after twenty years to craft something definitive, his story was almost an exact duplicate of The Final Battle -- just on a slightly larger scope. Even the "new" characters were carbon copies of old characters.

    Here's hoping the re-make at least provides some fresh perspective. Short-lived though it may be.
     
  3. John Clark

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    I want to see this as it's piqued my interest. (I was a big fan of V back in the 80s).

    We'll see as I reckon it will be shown over here eventually.
     
  4. Archangel

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    I do hope we get some cameos from the original cast.
     
  5. C.E. Evans

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    +1

    It'll be lucky if the show lasts four episodes before ABC pulls the plug...
     
  6. bigdaddy

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    Really? I thought they brought him back as a "consultant".
     
  7. bigdaddy

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    Really? I thought they brought him back as a "consultant".

    You like to make things up that you pull out of your ass, you must be a Republican.
     
  8. KingstonTrekker

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    Not sure why everyone is seeing this scheduling move as a totally ominous thing. It could end up being a brilliant move...air four episodes in November, end with a cliffhanger, and then bring it back after the Olympics for a late mid-season run to finish out the 13 episodes. The promos I have seen look very promising. Just seems like a lot of negativity in the posts in this thread...we can't assume that this scheduling move represents a lack of faith on the part of ABC in this series...it could work out well for the show.
     
  9. Ríu ríu chíu

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    So what do you think of the Zedti, by the way? Do you think they're really friends of humanity or just out to enslave them just like the Visitors did?
     
  10. Aragorn

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    But a brand new show hooking enough people after only four episodes to make them wanting more? They should take a look at Jericho as an example of how not to put new shows on extended hiatus.

    Wow, way to defend yourself there with yet another nonsensical, out-of-nowhere, bitter, one-sentence hit and run post. :lol:
     
  11. mswood

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    Actually , the report is correct, they are doing it based on the Olympics schedule.

    It was always known that the show was starting later (so no surprise, its airing all the week's of November sweeps, then like almost every other show taking their winter break. Now for most shows this is about 6 weeks (some go 8 weeks) with the majority of January and December, showing reruns (though usually we get one full week in December and one full week in January of new episodes (thus the normal 6 week interruption).

    Now the show was (because of its late production and late starting date) very unlikely to get a full 22 episodes this year, they just don't have enough lead time. So we were honestly looking really at best at 18 or so episodes. With a 13 episode order, they go hit November sweeps (hugely important), they don't want to start up for like 3 more episodes then have another break of over a month before starting up and going to the end of May Sweeps.

    This allows them to hit November sweeps fully, the run a long stretch of episodes through most likely April and May.

    Now I do agree that perhaps I would run it like Lost (and run all 13 episodes straight to end at the end of May sweeps), but they might feel like they need a large bump for November sweeps (Don't know how they feel the whole schedule is going to work out) and that it is worth the potential loss in audience with a break.
     
  12. Temis the Vorta

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    I'm anticipating it!!! And Dexter (tonight's the night! :D) SG:U? eh....
    The TV programming environment is so brutal nowadays that any interruption in the schedule is harmful if not fatal. To do that to a show that won't get a chance to lock in an audience first either shows that ABC is trying to kill the show or has such unbounded faith in it that they think that the audience will bother to find it again on the other side of the Olympics. The former seems a whole lot more likely than the latter - what show is that good?

    If they really are locked into showing something in Nov, the way they could salvage the situation is to re-air the first four eps after the Olympics, treat it as the launch for the whole series, and then if some Nov viewers are inclined to pay attention to schedules, they can jump in on the fifth episode. If this "strategy" is going to work, ABC needs to pump in more advertising post-Olympics.
     
  13. Candlelight

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    I hate it how V is now the name of the aliens (for Visitors).

    It's dumb. The old jewish guy telling the kids what V stood for was one of the defining and proudest moments of the first mini series.
     
  14. jefferiestubes8

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  15. Mr. Adventure

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    Yet every single show has them between seasons and the viewers come back year after year. And many of those end on a cliffhanger so it's not like there's an inherent issue with leaving a story hanging.
     
  16. Chaos Descending

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    Who says that it is?
     
  17. Archangel

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    Watch the promos.


    And I'm pretty sure Ken Johnson is a "consultant" on this the same way Glen Larson was a "consultant" on nuBSG...ie.

    "Here's a check, go away and leave us alone"
     
  18. cylkoth

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    And Warner Bros even tried to take creator status away from him by labeling the show a 'reboot' instead of a remake.
    http://www.exisle.net/mb/index.php?showtopic=60613
     
  19. Ancient Mariner

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    To be honest, by the end of the novel, I really didn't care one way or the other. :p

    Though, my guess is that the Zedti cared much more about their own insectoid skin than humanity. They weren't out to subjugate humanity, but they'd have no problem obliterating us if they thought we posed any threat to their future (including the fact that the Visitors were subjugating humanity as part of their war effort). It's almost like how we view insects around our home. We leave them alone, unless they decide to creep inside. Then we use all manner of products to eliminate the pests.
     
  20. Temis the Vorta

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    Every show I watch (except for Dexter, but we can't all be Dexter) has a downward trajectory and the most noticeable drops correspond to the longest hiatuses. And I do pay attention to the ratings like a nervous mother hen for the bubble-y shows I like as though I can will them to go back up. :rommie:

    From what I can tell, nothing ever gains audience over time; everything loses audience; and the best you can hope for is that the hemmorhaging won't hit cancellation levels before the story has had a decent chance to play out. New shows have a high mortality rate and I hate to see something promising not given every possible advantage because so few new shows are even remotely interesting to me.