Babylon 5 - Why 'Sinclair' left the show

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Jan, May 25, 2013.

  1. Starkers

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    Jan, I'm just repeating what others have said but thanks for posting this.
     
  2. Neroon

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    The wisest move he made on this video was to include everyone he could, not just the most significant names.
     
  3. sidious618

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    Oh, that's so sad what happened to him. I loved O'Hare and have always been saddened that he didn't get a bigger career after B5 but now it makes sense. Damn shame and it's lovely of JMS to support him as he did.
     
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    And the destiny of the character makes sure he is never a footnote "this guy was the leader in season 1 but he left..".
     
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    I never much cared why he left, but learning the facts behind his departure... Sobering, sad, but inspiring as well. I'm now even more thankful I had the opportunity to see Mr O'Hare at a con several years ago.

    Thank you for posting this, Jan.

    I'll delay my viewing of the tribute video for a while, I think.


    On the other hand, I wouldn't have thought my opinion of Doyle could go much lower, but it has.
     
  6. Sindatur

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    Yea, he did great playing Garibaldi, but, it seems Bester's paranoia conditioning may have had lasting effects on Jerry Doyle's pysche

    Thanks for posting this Jan
     
  7. EmoBorg

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    It is very sad to hear about on why he left. :(
     
  8. Jeff O'Connor

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    Thank you for sharing this, Jan.
     
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    That tribute video was great. Having only watched B5 for the first time recently (and really enjoying it) I didn't know some of the people had died. It was a very well done video.
     
  11. Brolan

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    Yes, thanks very much. Threads like this are one of the reasons I come to this board. :bolian:
     
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    Wait, you enjoyed something? ALL RIGHT, WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH kirk55555?!? ;):lol:
     
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    Now that I know, I'm even more saddened than I was before-what happened to him sounded like what really happened to Edward Platt (the 'Chief' on Get Smart) and what we now know was the real reason for George Reeves committing suicide that nobody but his co-star Jack Larson could face-he was depressed.

    And yet, I'm relieved about this revelation, as we all now know the actual truth, and don't just believe that it was typical actor bullcrap on his part. Thank you, Jan and Mike.

    More like neocon paranoia at the USA not being what he wants it to be and also not having his career go the way it should, I'd say.
     
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  15. Jan

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    ...is insane. --JMS
    Much as I dislike Jerry Doyle, I have to say that I think he sticks with each career he's had for exactly as long as he wants to. He's been a stock broker, a pilot, an actor, a politician, author and now a long-time talk radio host.

    JMS posted a link to video of the serious part of the panel last night.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utUTN16rrEc

    Jan
     
  16. Reverend

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    I have to admit (somewhat shamefully) that when I read Jan's original post, the first thought that crossed my mind was along the lines of "what do you know, Doyle was right. He really was a "nut".

    I'm not saying I agree with that assessment, but on balance it seems that his accounts of O'Hares erratic behavior were at least honest...that is to say honest from his particular vantage over on Planet Jerry. I suppose what I'm getting at is that while he may be a self centered, over opinionated git, he at least appears to be and an honest self centered, over opinionated git. The truth after all, really is a three-edged sword.
     
  17. Jan

    Jan Commodore Commodore

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    ...is insane. --JMS
    Well...technically, it's "Understanding is a three-edged sword". :p Your side, their side and the truth in the middle.

    Enough about him. I'm just glad that Michael had true friends like JMS, Kathryn Drennan, Sandra Bruckner and others who cared and who tried to help him. They're the ones who deserve attention but never sought it. I'm grateful that I got to hang out with Sandy a bit during the convention.

    Jan
     
  18. Reverend

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    I stand corrected, but my point stands. ;)

    OK, this is a little more personal than I usually like to get but...yeah, speaking as someone with a family history of mental illness and having been witness to a full-on mental breakdown/departure from reality, one very nearly so and numerous episodes of paranoid schizophrenia (all different people--pardon the pun) I can totally appreciate and respect what O'Hare went though and what it took for those that stood by him to help him though it all.

    We can all only hope that at our lowest times there'll be someone there to help us back up again and dust us off..
     
  19. JoeD80

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    I'd say it's just that stories contain grains of truth.

    Also Mira Furlan and John Flinn.