AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Apr 20, 2012.

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How do you grade The Avengers?

Poll closed Nov 26, 2012.
  1. A+

    46.4%
  2. A

    31.8%
  3. A-

    9.3%
  4. B+

    5.3%
  5. B

    3.4%
  6. B-

    1.6%
  7. C+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. C

    1.2%
  9. C-

    0.3%
  10. D+

    0.3%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    0.3%
  1. Aldo

    Aldo Admiral Admiral

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    I'm also looking forward to it. Spidey has always been one of my favorite comic book characters.

    That said though, I think Dark Knight Rises is going to be something special, and I cant' wait to see it either.
     
  2. JD

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    I'm another Spidey fan who's more interested in ASM than TDKR.
     
  3. Crusher Disciple

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    No, I was afraid all that physical labor would sprain my thumb. :(
     
  4. Admiral James Kirk

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    I'm also more excited about ASM than I am DKR. To be honest I think Christopher Nolan's take on Batman is all played out and DKR just gives me this Godfather Part III vibe.

    However with ASM we have a fresh new cast, director and vision for the character. I was never pleased with the Raimi trilogy so I'm hoping this new take will be the best version of Spider-Man ever. :)
     
  5. Set Harth

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    You mean you're trying to get out, but it just keeps pulling you back in?
     
  6. Trekker4747

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    I know you're hot for Loki but...

    You know what, I won't go that low brow.
     
  7. Admiral James Kirk

    Admiral James Kirk Writer Admiral

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    :rommie:
     
  8. CosmicQuestion

    CosmicQuestion Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Howdy peoples! Seen the movie yesterday and thought it was about average. Couldn't understand why the Avengers were the only ones fighting the invaders, especially since the aliens were so weak. If Black Widow's hand guns had no problem bringing them down I would imagine our troops would've laid them waste.

    I admit it was nice to see weak aliens instead of the telepathic powerhouses we're used to in other sci-fi, but they were TOO weak.

    Cap could've been tougher and seemed to be barely hanging on at times (in one scene he was literally barely hanging on), granted he wasn't trained in all the martial arts yet.

    Cap, Hawkeye, and Widow were stuck on one street picking off whatever alien happened to pass by. I was hoping they would do something cool like sneak into the enemy base or something... oh well. Fury didn't even launch planes from the helicarrier to help! Maybe too busy playing Gallaga, aw man.

    I rate the movie a C only because I was a fan of the comic back in the day.

    Still, Thanos' winning smile displayed the benefits of proper dental hygiene. A good message for youngsters, or anyone for that matter.
     
  9. Trekker4747

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    BW and Hawkeye were good at fighting the aliens because they were both elite assassins, they were top-tier military personnel trained and honed to do these very things. Watch how BW handles the aliens in taking them down, disarming them, and using their own weapons on them. All the city officials had going for them were the local beat cops (who say in a talk that the military wouldn't arrive for quite some time.) Quite a big difference there in skill sets.

    At the same time the alien "soldiers" were pure cannon fodder, only there for the express purpose of occupying the forces of those they were fighting while the heavier machinery did the bulk of the work for their ultimate goal. So police/military could have aided but it ultimately wouldn't help and would just be doing exactly what the Chitauri were there for, to die for the progression of their goals.
     
  10. Crusher Disciple

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    I'm not so busy with work this week that I can't find time to stuff you into the recycle bin. :nyah:
     
  11. Dream

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    The only supervillain there that might have been able to quickly kill any of the Avengers was Loki, but he ended up being owned by Hulk rather spectacularly. Part of me wishes he had been able to do more, but that scene with Hulk was just so great not to have.
     
  12. CosmicQuestion

    CosmicQuestion Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    If shield has a helicarrier they must have some planes on it. The other shield agents should be well trained in combat too right?

    Even so, it just didn't seem like special skills or powers were needed. Also Cap got shot in the stomach and pretty much shrugged it off.

    The aliens were weak.
     
  13. Trekker4747

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    I've got a rather off-color response for that too.

    But, again, I will postpone.
     
  14. Captain Craig

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    I forget the exact wording but the the two cops we meet trying to manage the chaos mention that "the national guard is on it's way or an hour away", not sure which. So no doubt had our military shown up then the foot soldiers could've been dealt with. The flying slug though was quite armored as even IM was waiting for chinks to develop before shooting them.

    As far as the Helicarrier I'm guessing the planes on there were mostly damaged and/or personnel injured. Therefore keeping the Helicarrier out of the action. The unauthorized launch by the one with the nuke lets you know that the Deck was locked down for some reason(s). I'm guessing cause so much chaos was still in affect from the Loki breakout. The scenes are nearly back-to-back.
     
  15. Mr Light

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    Well they do show the military eventually showing up and joining the fight in Manhattan.
     
  16. LaxScrutiny

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    No, BW's handguns were one of the very few issues I had with the movie. A 12 second scene where Stark whips up a "repulser pistol" in the helicarrier lab and tosses it to her, and her combat effectiveness suddenly needs 100% less suspension of disbelief.

    Her physically taking out the aliens and appropriating their staff-blasters I was fine with. That's your highly trained agent. But there's no difference between her 9mm and the one's the cops have. If her two pistols could do that much damage, then a squad of, say, Navy SEALS would have taken out the entire army of Chitauri foot soldiers in half an hour. It is the one thing that makes the Chitauri look completely defeatable.

    Her pistols gives us a real life benchmark to measure the Chitauri against. That's where it goes wrong. Cap's athletics and Hawkeye's arrows are off the real-life scale and we can imagine them to be as powerful as the plot requires. A 9mm is always a 9mm.
     
  17. captcalhoun

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    there were more scenes of the National Guard, but tehy got cut. you can see that in the trailers and also what some guys from the NYNG said regarding how Joss allowed them to act for the camera as though they were really fighting aliens (IE he told them what the aliens were doing, they used real life tactics to react and he filmed it instead of BS Hollywood tactics)
     
  18. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    People have been shitting on Bay's Transformers films, but one thing I loved was how he incorporated the military into the film. It made sense on a plot level, but he also knew that the military would know best how to fight alien robots than a scriptwriter would. The Skorponok scene is a perfect example of real military tactics.

    I was excited during the last twenty minutes of Transformers, when the battle took to the streets, and came close to feeling that level of excitement in the last half hour of the Avengers. Avengers probably won't age well, but it did feel like a living comic book.
     
  19. Trekker4747

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    Brilliance personified:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliqwWV46AM[/yt]
     
  20. Captain Craig

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    ^^^
    That was awesome!!
    I instantly opened another window and shared it with a friend who is diehard Firefly!!