AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Apr 20, 2012.

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How do you grade The Avengers?

Poll closed Nov 26, 2012.
  1. A+

    46.4%
  2. A

    31.8%
  3. A-

    9.3%
  4. B+

    5.3%
  5. B

    3.4%
  6. B-

    1.6%
  7. C+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. C

    1.2%
  9. C-

    0.3%
  10. D+

    0.3%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    0.3%
  1. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    Ah, true, didn't consider the EMP. (Though it didn't seem to permanently disable Tony's chest arc-reactor.)

    Oh, and tsk. tsk. Joss. You got lauded and praised so much for the "no sound in space" thing in Firefly but here you not only had sound in space but you also had the time delayof sound in space since we see the "flash" of the nuke's explosion and then a second or two later we hear the explosion.
     
  2. Joy

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    Maybe the suit Tony was wearing just wasn't made for outer-space travel? I know Tony joked "skip the spinning rims" to Jarvis when told the suit wasn't fully ready, but there was probably something to Jarvis' warning. What were the metal things that came off the suit's shoulders when he let go of the nuke?

    About the Chitauri falling dead when their mothership was blown up.... Isn't it possible that they have a hive mind? All their tech seemed fairly organic; I mean, their version of invasion ships were giant beasts that the soldiers rode in on. So maybe they were just tied to the ship because they were a PART of the ship? And they figured they would just win by sheer numbers.

    Maybe they're like the Formic in Ender's Game--when a queen dies, her drones "lose their intelligence and ability to function immediately" (Wikipedia).
     
  3. hyzmarca

    hyzmarca Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Are we sure that the mothership was in outer space? It was a portal to another dimension. Alternate dimensions are weird. Like you could have one where there's an atmosphere in space. And you could have one made entirely out of shrimp.

    But exploring alternate dimensions is more of a Doctor Strange thing. I wonder when that movie will come out. Hopefully they'll base it on some psychedelic 60s Strange stories instead of falling back on this more recent depictions.
     
  4. Aldo

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    There's a shot, well more like a sequence in this film that I absolutely love. Near the beginning when Loki is escaping the SHIELD facility with Hawkeye, he's riding in the back of the Jeep. Here's a guy, no a God who is capable of doing things we can only imagine, and yet he's making his escape on the back of a jeep.

    It's this mixture of the fantastical with the mundane that I really enjoy about watching these Comic Book character's/stories brought to life in a filmed medium.
     
  5. Admiral2

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    That's why i like when Loki disguises himself as a young businessman with a walking stick.
     
  6. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    Both Asgard and the Chitauri homeworld seem to be artificial or otherwise not like a regular planet at all, with an atmosphere or something akin to it that more "immortal" races can exist in that extends beyond the weird mass that represents the solid ground of their world.

    In fact the Chitarui one looked like rather than one larger planet it was a collection of small planetoids that had something of a thin weird atmosphere around it all.

    Very weird stuff and not a good idea to apply our rocky planet standard to them.
     
  7. Kira's Mom

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    Saw it yesterday. Really, really enjoyed it. :techman:
     
  8. Agent Richard07

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    It really suited him.
     
  9. Kosh Naranek

    Kosh Naranek Captain Captain

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    So does the avatar give us a hint as to your favorite Avenger? :)

    Tom Hiddleston looked really nice in that suit. :techman: He was the one actor that was driving me nuts in that film. I could not place him. I had to look him up on IMDB, and then I felt silly.
     
  10. Agenda

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    Thanos is a demi-god who worships death, so wouldn't it be fitting if the Chitauri soldiers weren't even alive in the traditional sense? Maybe they are biological in essence but have no free will and are controlled by a machine.
     
  11. Kira's Mom

    Kira's Mom Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ^:lol: Yeah, I loved Hawkeye and wish there had been more of him, but I actually liked Banner/Hulk best of all. Mark Ruffalo really impressed me. I'm not usually a fan of his.

    (that was in reply to Kosh)
     
  12. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    Ditto, hopefully they'll be a Hawkeye/BW movie with plenty of screentime with both of them.

    I mean come on, how can they not use him again. :D

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Aldo

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    The people I went and saw the movie with had a problem with that moment. And thinking about it their issues make sense.

    It's one thing to say Hawkeye is a expert shot with the bow. But how was he able to blindly fire at the scout ship behind him and get a dead perfect hit?
     
  14. captcalhoun

    captcalhoun Admiral Admiral

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    cuz he's Fucking Hawkeye!
     
  15. Robert Maxwell

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    Maybe his hearing is also really good, so he was able to determine where it was (and how quickly it was approaching, and from what direction) just from its sound? :lol:

    I dunno, it's Hollywood. Make something up. There was nothing at all "realistic" about this film, so nitpicking a moment like that is a bit silly.
     
  16. Wereghost

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    I liked that Hawkeye moment, actually. Suspension of disbelief wasn't really an issue considering the company he keeps. Also, maybe he and BW have some enhancements other than having moderately science-fictional weaponry.
     
  17. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, it's not remotely realistic but then neither is half the film. It is however, very awesome.

    (look closely and you'll see that his bow isn't pointed anywhere near the craft and the arrow couldn't possibly have traveled that fast had he been pointing it the right way).
     
  18. Trekker4747

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    I'm not at all familiar with Hawkeye's use in the comics but I liked the "idea" that he's far-sighted. He tells Fury in the opening sequence that he "sees better from a distance" and I believe in the shawarma scene at the end we see him wearing reading glasses as he reads the paper.
     
  19. Kelthaz

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    Works for me. :techman:
     
  20. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    He does;
    [​IMG]

    Also for anyone interested the bow he uses is a heavily modified Hoyt "Buffalo" made especially for the film. Well two versions, one prop flip open one and the operational strung version.

    The basic model is $700, his is probably worth over $1000 production cost alone. For comparsion I have the "Excel" which is around $300. :lol: