AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Apr 20, 2012.

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How do you grade The Avengers?

Poll closed Nov 26, 2012.
  1. A+

    46.4%
  2. A

    31.8%
  3. A-

    9.3%
  4. B+

    5.3%
  5. B

    3.4%
  6. B-

    1.6%
  7. C+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. C

    1.2%
  9. C-

    0.3%
  10. D+

    0.3%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    0.3%
  1. davejames

    davejames Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Finally saw it a second time (this time in 3D), and enjoyed it even more than before. The issue I had with it being a bit slow and talky in the middle somehow didn't bother me at all this time.

    The only complaint I still DO have is just with the lackluster score. It's decent enough and gets the job done, but much as with the Captain America movie, I think it REALLY needed something more thrilling and exciting to take it to that extra level. Maybe something less modern, and more romantic and epic like a Superman or Rocketeer score.
     
  2. Wereghost

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  3. Skywalker

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    The cool thing about that is (from what I've heard) a good amount of the 30-40 or so minutes that Joss left on the cutting room floor is all about Cap, and even without that he still beats everyone else in terms of screen time.
     
  4. Wereghost

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    ^ Cap may not be my favourite Avenger, but I have to admit that Evans really sells the role, giving a performance that's remarkably believable and three-dimensional. Kind of what Cap himself has to do, given his uniform.
     
  5. Alidar Jarok

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    I'm not all that surprised. The prominence of Black Widow seemed about right (her character was a pleasant surprise). I'm actually surprised the early scenes with Hawkeye, plus his scenes under mind control didn't help push his time a bit more. I think it shows that it's hard to use his character right. I would love a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie, though.

    It felt like Captain America took awhile to get introduced, but he was significant after that (I can't think of a scene where he wasn't in).
     
  6. Beagleman

    Beagleman Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I`m really suprised how much I liked Cap here, he's far from being my favourite character, but Evans was brilliant and the character really grew on me. (It may also be the fish out of water aspect which gave him an additional layer.)
     
  7. inflatabledalek

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  8. Captain Craig

    Captain Craig Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Nice find! :techman:
    Seeing their tallies it doesn't surprise me about BW's solo screen moments. She feels very central to the story.
     
  9. Harvey

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    Doesn't seem that surprising, actually. Good find, though. I do wonder where Nick Fury would rate among them in terms of screen time, though.
     
  10. Admiral2

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    Saw it again, this time in 3-D. More gut reactions:

    - 3-D doesn't add a thing. Mind you, it doesn't subtract anything either. It's just not automatically better than 2-D. The movie rocks either way.

    - You guys who didn't like the music score: This time I paid more attention. To use a Whedonism, "I just can't bring myself to care." Granted, Alan Silvestri is not John Williams. In a movie this packed with action and eye candy, he doesn't need to be.

    - You guys who think Cobie Smulders was hotter than Scarlett Johanssen: Cobie's still flat and still boring and you are hereby ordered to turn in your Manhood ID cards and censure yourselves for even entertaining the thought that she could be hotter than Scarjo. There's about two hours of obvious on-screen evidence that she's not.

    - Loki versus Hulk is still funny.

    - The Avengers is still an A+.
     
  11. Evil Twin

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    Just got back from it. Pretty good overall but nope, still doesn't beat X-Men 2 as my all-time favorite superhero movie! Glad I took the time to rent Thor this week (the only "set-up" movie I still hadn't seen) because while it's a mediocre movie, it's definitely required viewing for this one. I'd say probably the only one that isn't is The Incredible Hulk.
     
  12. Warped9

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    I also just watched Thor for the first time. I liked it although I don't think it's awesome. It certainly feels like a comic book come to life, but in a good way. And, yes, it does give you some decent backstory to the character.

    I did like Thor's character arc from selfish puts to worthy hero.
     
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  13. USS Mariner

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    The reaction shots of Foster and Co. on Earth during the Dethbridge scene were insultingly stupid.

    What were they supposed to be looking at, considering that the Bifrost wasn't aimed at them?

    And yet all of a sudden there's this giant vortex of doom we can see, which defeats their "discovery" since people should see that damn thing whenever Odin has The Warriors Three go for a pizza run. This seriously pisses me off, as every problem I had up to this point was more a matter of taste rather than substance. This was a matter of Michael Bay's nephew ghost writing.

    "Durr. Annd when Hammerman and Goat-Boy fight in the LAzor derr should be an EXPROSION on Earf!"
     
  14. Ethros

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    Yeah, how do people feel about TIH now? It does definitely feel like the odd one out of the 5 preceding movies. And not just because of the actor change
     
  15. Mr. Adventure

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    I think what the Avengers-era movies have shown is that they should just concentrate on making solid films with sensible interpretations that don't go too far off the reservation.

    I think too often they try to unnecessarily come up with thing to make the characters work on the big screen. Thing is, audiences get comic book conventions and won't go run screaming from helicarriers, Asgard and aliens running through a portal. They don't necessarily need a Superman with illegitimate children, Hulks with daddy issues, whatever the hell Catwoman was, organic web shooters and so on.

    The Dark Knight is the #3 movie ever so it's not like DC can't get on track.

    EDIT: Crap, I posted this in the wrong thread! Sorry... :(
     
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  16. hyzmarca

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    Well, we see at the end that they're commanded by Thanos. Generally, Thanos doesn't care who gets killed, just so long as a lot of people die. He's in love with Mistress Death and getting a fuckton of people killed is the equivalent of sending her a box of flowers.

    He's the sort of guy who will indiscriminately exterminate half of all life in the universe just to impress a girl.

    The most obvious thing is that he was just going through the motions so that he could get the Cosmic Cube from Loki, and possibly get a shot at the Infinity Gauntlet (if he knows that the Asgardians have it).
     
  17. CaptainCanada

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    It's certainly feels the least essential, though it's superior as a film to Iron Man 2, one of the films that feels more connected.

    The Marvel Studios films would fall into tiers for me:

    Great: Iron Man, Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers

    Very Good: Thor

    Good: The Incredible Hulk

    Mediocre-at-best: Iron Man 2
     
  18. JoeZhang

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    I think it does simply in terms of the colour em.. palate? (is that the word I'm looking for?) I keep taking my glasses off and the film is much brighter and the costumes have much more POP without that filter between you and it - the actual 3D was fine however.
     
  19. DarthPipes

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    Just saw it a second time and I loved it almost as much as the first. :techman:
     
  20. Harvey

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    I haven't seen it in a while, but my initial reaction was positive, and I'd probably still feel the same way. I suspect that it doesn't have the same sense of humor that most of the other Marvel movies have -- I recall it being pretty serious with occasional comedic moments -- which might make it the odd one out of the lot (although I still haven't seen Thor).
     

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