At War With The Romulan Empire?

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  1. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    Jarok actually commanded the Romulan forces at Norkan, but given how long Vulcans and Romulans can live, that's not a problem. For Picard, the Norkan Campaign could be something that was a historical event that he studied.
     
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  2. The Wormhole

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    Later episodes of TNG kind of ignore that fact from The Neutral Zone. Hell, The Neutral Zone itself contradicted Angel One which implied the Federation and the Romulans were on the verge of war.
     
  3. C.E. Evans

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    The 53-year period of Romulan isolationism may be in regards to no diplomatic contact (or communications period) with the Romulans during that time, but they were still perceived as a threat nevertheless from past history (the most recent events being the Khitomer massacre and the loss of the Enterprise-C). In "Angel One," the Federation became anxious from just deep-space scans of Romulan vessels mobilizing near the Neutral Zone.
     
  4. solariabsg25

    solariabsg25 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yes, but they also had enough solid information for Data to calculate TO THE MINUTE how long the border outpost and USS Berlin could withstand the Romulan attack. That would need a lot of solid information.

    Originally it was going to be the Ferengi until they didn't quite work out as villains, and the matter was not helped by the script of The Neutral Zone.
     
  5. The Wormhole

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    Interesting. They should have stuck with the Ferengi anyway. It's not like they would have been featured in the episode. Ah well.
     
  6. C.E. Evans

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    Which they could easily get from long-range sensor scans and subsequent tactical assessments. The Romulans no doubt were able to do the same from their side.

    The really big surprise in "The Neutral Zone" was that the Romulans had finally broken their silence and the revelation of the D'deridex-class warbird, IMO.
     
  7. Captain Clark Terrell

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    That's my understanding as well. It's stated in "The Defector" that Jarok commanded the Norkan Campaign/Massacre. It's not clear exactly when it happened, but I never got the impression that Picard was present for those events. They may have happened before his lifetime or during his childhood.

    --Sran
     
  8. Hawkke

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    If it has not been said already said the Romulan war was going to be the next season(s) of Enterprise before it got the axe :(
    I think that is what the season 5 project for Enterprise is going to cover on Netflix, (at least I hope)
     
  9. Timo

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    It is also quite possible that the Norkan Colony massacre (and the infamous defeat at Cheron) took place mere months before "The Defector".

    I mean, it would be quite difficult to get information on who did what in a conflict long ago, when Romulans had had fewer opportunities to share information with the Federation. But after "The Neutral Zone", the Romulans might have gone quite active and interactive in an all-new strategy: "TNZ" did mark their first open onscreen attempt at cooperation with Starfleet, although there was probably a lot of covert cooperation going on during ST6:TUC already... The identity of the man who massacred Norkan might well be "public", UFP-accessible knowledge under the new strategy.

    A massacre or two between "TNZ" and "The Defector" would be quite in line with the overall Romulan policy of unapologetic aggression at the time. The Star Empire was quite ready to risk war with all sorts of schemes, several times including the destruction of the Federation Flagship. Indeed, it seemed to desire war on several occasions, although perhaps only as part of a bluff of some sort. Jarok's own belief that another destructive war would be unwelcome is unlikely to have reflected the actual thinking of the Romulan leaders at the time.

    Timo Saloniemi