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  1. propita

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    I'm assuming Type 2, since it's recent though he has been tending that way for 10 years or so. Then his number went over the limit. I think he's about 140.

    He's trying. Shoot, he's a pharmacist, he knows what's what.
     
  2. sojourner

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    140 is above average, but not excessive.
     
  3. thestrangequark

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    If there is trending involved it is definitely type 2. There's no trending in type 1 (except with the extremely rare exception of LADA type 1). I hope I didn't come off as rude, it's just that this is what I'm talking about -- tons of people with type 2 don't even know the difference themselves. If he had type 1, you would know. His blood glucose at diagnosis would probably have been between 600-800, not 140. 140 is gold for a type 1. He would likely have been near comatose, and definitely would have been hospitalized for several days upon diagnosis. He would be taking multiple shots of insulin a day or be on an insulin pump, and checking his sugars 4-12 times daily. He would not be able to survive without insulin. You would have been taught the warning signs of hypos, and how to use a glucagon kit in case he had a seizure or blacked out. He would carry some form of glucose with him at all times to counter hypos, and would likely wake up in the middle of the night at least once a week to do night time glucose monitoring.

    See, it's a completely different disease, and people don't get that. That's what's hard when you're type 1.

    As for the 10 point variance: glucometers are accurate within a range. He could test his sugar once, and then immediately afterwards and it could vary by as much as 20-25 points on the same meter. 10 points doesn't really tell you anything, type 1 or 2, because it could be the meter variance or the test strip variance. Of course, this goes for meter testing. A lab test, which is on blood syrum rather than whole blood, is more accurate, and in that case a 10 point variance might mean something.
     
  4. thestrangequark

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    140 is dead center my target range!
     
  5. sojourner

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    Yeah, I was always told to shoot for 80 - 120, but always felt more comfortable at the high end. 140 is fine for me.
     
  6. thestrangequark

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    ^When I was diagnosed the target range was 80-180, and it keeps changing. My brother was a type 1 who died of hypoglycemia when he was only 16, though, so I don't feel comfortable too low. I like to keep it 80-120 during the day, but prefer to go to bed and wake up between 120-180. Though reality and target range aren't always the same thing! :)
     
  7. propita

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    When I had tests done, the range printed on the sheet was <126. Since then, it's been lowered to <99. Personally, I think it's Big Pharm wanting money for meds. I don't understand this stuff as well. Always hated life sciences. I just want Hubby to take care of himself.

    So, as someone well-familiar with diabetes, need he/I be worried?
     
  8. Gil T.Azell

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    I know it as a Number sign too, but the Pound come from your automated system eg ..Push 1 followed by the Pound key..", lol
     
  9. thestrangequark

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    His doctor is really the only one who can tell him that. What I do know is that 140 is pushing it, but isn't serious. He can likely go a long way to preventing type 2 simply by changing his diet and exercise habits. That doesn't work for everyone, and you did mention the genes are strong in his family, but at the very least he could delay the onset and avoid taking drugs for now -- possibly forever. That's one good thing about type 2, most type 2's have at least some power over it, at least to the degree to which their lifestyle is a contributing factor (and that degree varies from person to person). Type 1 is an autoimmune disease, on the other hand.


    There are a lot of Big Pharma conspiracy theories in regards to diabetes. I used to sort of believe them myself, until I really thought about it and realized that they don't actually make sense. I recently read a very good article, dispelling Big Pharma conspiracy myths from a financial analysis perspective, using type 1 diabetes as an example. It's good reading, though, admittedly, it doesn't make a good argument agains conspiracy theories regarding type 2. I still highly doubt there are any. The shifting guidelines are due to the fact that these are extremely complex metabolic disorders, and, in the case of type 1, an extremely complex autoimmune disorder. Scientific medicine has really only been around for a couple of centuries, and science takes a long time -- they just don't know for sure where exactly to draw the lines, so they guidelines are determined by medical consensus, and they shift over time according to new evidence. Does this mean there's room for one or two of the MDs on the panel to snaffle a bit from Eli Lilly if they get the guidelines down by 20 mg/dl? Possibly...but in the end does it really make a difference? A doctor isn't going to recommend anything other than diet and lifestyle changes to someone running 90-140 anyway.
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

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    I think we might have been using it as a pound sign before we had touch tone phones.
     
  11. rhubarbodendron

    rhubarbodendron Commodore Commodore

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    I finally found out why I am still single!



    To find a man you need Time and Money.
    Therefore:

    Man = Time x Money​


    "Time is money", so:

    Time = Money​


    Therefore:
    Man = Money x Money

    Man = (Money)²​


    "Money is the root of all problems", so:

    Money = √Problems​


    It follows:

    Man = (√Problems)²

    Man = Problems
     
  12. Retu

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    Oh, that proof works for men too? :lol:
     
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  14. rhubarbodendron

    rhubarbodendron Commodore Commodore

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    Hmm, given a population of - how many are we atm, 9 billion? - my chances would be

    9,000,000,000 / 285,000 = 9,000,000 / 285 = 31,579 potentially ideal partners

    (the 1: 285,000 ratio already takes care of excluding all minors, elderly or the other gender so that we may legitimally use the number of all humans on the planet in this equation)


    So, where the heck are those 31,555 I haven't tried out yet??!
     
  15. Retu

    Retu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Spread evenly all over the world. And sadly, the world is a pretty big place. :sigh:
     
  16. propita

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    I thought it was the deformed Y-chromosome. :D
     
  17. rhubarbodendron

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    it is, but that's the mathematical proof for it ;)

    Good point, Retu, but the world has become much smaller the last 40 years. Now, if they'd finally invent beaming...
     
  18. thestrangequark

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    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK-vLOxgLz4[/yt]
     
  19. rhubarbodendron

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    nice song, only a bit too heavy on the bass frequencies (as so much music nowadays *sigh*)
    Mr Minchin appears to have the same makeup artist as Jack Sparrow :D
     
  20. thestrangequark

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    :lol: It's supposed to be bad, musically -- for comedy's sake! I just thought the mathematical analysis of love was relavent!
     

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