Area 51... truth?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Data Holmes, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. Data Holmes

    Data Holmes Admiral Admiral

    Apr 21, 2001
    zone.33 lounge at club Planet Noir
    So, it seems that thanks to recent moves by the CIA to declassify some projects last year, several former staff at Area 51 have become free to step froward and speak of some of the things that went on there.

    Some interesting stuff in this article. Mentions of the U2, OXCART, NERVA rocket program...

    I would love to get a look in there.
  2. There was never much doubt that Area 51 was a testing ground for experimental aircraft. And with the global climate being as it is, not much reason keeping it a "secret".

    As for the alien conspiracies, the military must have thought they struck gold as it provided a perfect cover as people chased UFO's and would never believe the truth even if it was staring them in the face (as it is now). Makes it even easier to cover up the real reason for being out there in the desert and keeping the real technology a secret form the U.S.'s enemies.

    Besides, everyone knows aliens hang out in crop fields and not deserts ;)
  3. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 14, 2004
    In your head, doing stuff...
    Damnit, when are we going to find out the truth about the Aurora?
  4. Brent

    Brent Admiral Admiral

    Apr 24, 2003
    Of course Area 51 exists, they tested experimental aircraft. However, I do not believe they are keeping alien space craft or aliens there.
  5. BolianAuthor

    BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Rear Admiral

    Sep 24, 2003
    Torrance, California
    Well, anyone who has read my "Shades of Gray" story pretty much knows what I think, but as it stands now, I think that Area 51 is basically a facility for the manufacture and testing of black ops military craft.

    I think that we DO have remains of an alien ship there, but we were able to use VERY little of what we found, and what we did use, we reverse-engineered, to the best of our ability. But this day in age, I think everything that comes out of Area 51 is human-made, either by our own design, or using what we learned from the alien technology.
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Admiral

    Feb 5, 2001
    Monticello, AR. United States of America
    I've heard that Aurora never really existed.

    However, that secret space plane launched from beneath a modified XB-70 is another story.

    I've heard that it was suborbital only but could launch small satellites weighing only a few hundred pounds on into LEO.
  7. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

    Jan 31, 2007
    Actually, the best story I've heard is that it did, but it wasn't a plane - it was a set of procedures/protocols and the related engineering to make automated inflight refuelling a lot quicker and easier for a wider variety of conditions. AURORA was apparently the acronym, though I forget what it stood for.

    It's suggested in an excellent book called Travels In Dreamland
  8. tharpdevenport

    tharpdevenport Admiral Admiral

    Got to say, there stories were amusing, but the whole thing was boring and still reaked of of lies and hidden information.
  9. miraclefan

    miraclefan Commodore Commodore

    Dec 6, 2008
    The F U state of TEXAS!
    :wtf::shifty::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:I'm so SORRY!:guffaw:
  10. TIN_MAN

    TIN_MAN Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Aug 26, 2007
    Typical "nothing buttery", as in Roswell was nothing but crash dummies and weather baloons, righhhht! :rolleyes:
  11. Lindley

    Lindley Moderator with a Soul Moderator

    Nov 30, 2001
    Bonney Lake, WA
    Of course there's hidden information. It was classified for a reason, after all. Specifically, by definition Top Secret material is that which may cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if made publicly available. In practice, simply marking information as TS is often not enough----the most secure information has additional restrictions slapped on it for compartmentalization.

    Most people probably wouldn't bother lying, they'd just stop talking at the right times to avoid disclosure.
  12. trekjiro

    trekjiro Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Nov 6, 2008
  13. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 17, 2005
    Walking distance from Starfleet HQ
    And Mitchell's since backed-off/clarified those interviews. He says he's repeateding what he was told by "old timers" he clearly thinks are credible. That's all.

    etc., etc. "A friend of mine told me..." Blah blah.
  14. JustAFriend

    JustAFriend Commodore Commodore

    Apr 2, 2002
    South Florida, USA
    It usually takes 20-30 years before most really 'black' programs are announced/admitted.
    (Remember that the U-2, SR-71 and F-117 were nearly 'antiques' before they were outed...)

    And the further we are ahead of everyone else, the less anxious
    the Generals are going to announce the existence of those programs.

    I'd doubt those programs will see the light of day before 2020....
  15. Jono

    Jono Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 22, 2001
    Where else would they keep the alien space craft and alien bodies?
  16. Kaziarl

    Kaziarl Commodore Commodore

    Dec 24, 2007
    Portland, OR (Kaziarl)
    Area 52
  17. Garrovick

    Garrovick Guest

    Wright Pat AFB - Hangar 11 for the creatures from outer space.

    Area 51 is just the public cover up.

    In today's era, individual aircraft corps have their own black works sites.
  18. plague

    plague Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Mar 16, 2009
    Ann Arbor, MI
    It just seems like hogwash to me. If these people were to hear that some project they were working on was now declassified, it wouldn't clear them to talk about it. There's no official memo that goes out saying, "Feel free to talk about this now". How would they even know it was official?

    It seems like they're lying or they'll soon be in jail.
  19. jefferiestubes8

    jefferiestubes8 Commodore Premium Member

    Mar 8, 2009
    New York City
    CIA confirms Area 51 is real & a base for secret spy planes

    (my bolding)

    CIA confirms the world's worst kept secret: Area 51 is real

    407-page document explains the site as a base for secret spy planes

    The X-Files mythology sure was fun though.
  20. Relayer1

    Relayer1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Aug 21, 2011
    The Black Country, England
    I thought the 'evidence' for Aurora was pretty good - radar traces, photo's of the donut like contrails, retirement (and reintroduction) of the Blackbird...

    Not an avid enthusiast - just casual observations.

    Also, what of another facility at Papoose Lake ?