Anybody else sick of Vampires?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Lookingglassman, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. Spaceman Spiff

    Spaceman Spiff Abuse of Power Administrator

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    I like Dog Soldiers quite a bit. I have some thoughts on it that I'll reserve until after RJDiogenes sees it, though.

    I also enjoy the first Ginger Snaps movie.
     
  2. Australis

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    What about the Jack Nicholson movie Wolf? Not seen it myself, just askin'.
     
  3. cultcross

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    Absolutely agree with all of this. I love vampire fiction done well. Interview with the Vampire remains a favourite film of mine, and Buffy and Angel have been arguably my two favourite shows ever. But then the later Anne Rice stuff, Twilight, the rush of crappy vampire stuff recently in Twilight's wake, it just bores me. When you have a concept as, frankly, silly as the vampire, you either have to be very good at 'scary', very good at 'epic', or very good at 'self aware tongue-in-cheek'. And I don't think the recent stuff has any of these qualities.


    I find this angle fascinating - being a bloke, I really don't get it, so I do find the 'attractive' aspect of vampirism interesting. As Juan said early on in the thread, to me a vampire is a symbol of dominance - in the traditional ages-old-vampire-with-teenage-girl setup, he is a (metaphorical) rapist. Taking the metaphor more literally, a guy who was actually like that would be vilified by women and quickly end up with a gazillion years in jail. Now I get some of the attraction; the mysterious element, a bit of 'bad boy' action, the, as Riley put it, 'billowy coat king of pain' thing. But it's the actual nature of the vampire itself that I cant' get past when dealing with them as a romantic figure.


    We won't hold it against you ;)
     
  4. JuanBolio

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    I hope so. I don't mind and even somewhat like the monstrous vampires as portrayed in films like Nosteratu and even Van Helsing. I can at least respect them as terrible adversaries.

    "Sexy" vampires that exist only to get teen girls hot, though... I don't know if there is anything worse for me.

    Well put, sir. I suppose this kind of vampire, and the reaction girls like Niorah seem to have to them, is representative of a pattern I deeply dislike and oppose - that of girls being seduced by men with a facade of charm which covers a truly evil core that seeks only to manipulate and use. There's nothing sexy about a vampire to me, any more than there would be about a suave, rich, mysterious date rapist. Whenever I am presented with such characters I just want to see them dead and the threat ended. I have no sympathy at all.
     
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  5. melancholymecha

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    how do guys feel about female vampires? are guys drawn to them in the same way that women are drawn to male vampires? or are they more like another variation of the "alien babe".
     
  6. SilentP

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    I for one can say there is a definite attraction to female vamires, for me at least, though I wouldn't say it's a variant on the 'alien babe' theme (i.e. something exotic). I think it's a fascination with the image of a seductress whose also somewhat predatory towards getting the male under her spell. I don't know if there's as much of the 'rapist' connonation going with this gender match as other are assigning to the male vampire/female human pairing though. I guess for me, it's also that I like a forward, dominating woman on occasion, and the classic female vampire archetype fits the profile very well.

    Plus, busty women with pale skin and piercing eyes are damn sexy :drool: (another archetype, and one that I love :))
     
  7. JuanBolio

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    I feel about as hostile toward female vampires to males. Their only saving grace is that they're not after THE WOMEN!

    Pretty much the same as any alien babe - she may look hot, but that's not nearly enough. I don't want an ovapositor rammed down my throat and eggs lain in my chest, and I don't want to be drained of blood and killed or bitten and transformed into that which I loathe. Plenty of girls in high school were hot, too, but underneath they were still complete and utter succubi - nothing but pieces of shit in pretty wrappers.
     
  8. RJDiogenes

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    Glad to hear it has your seal of approval. :bolian:

    I don't think I've seen that one. I saw one set in the Old West that was pretty disappointing.

    I've heard that it was not very good.

    Female Vampires can be attractive just by virtue of being attractive, but being Vampires is not a plus in and of itself.
     
  9. Spaceman Spiff

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    There was a Ginger Snaps movie set in colonial-era Canada. It's pretty much agreed across the board as the least impressive of the series. It has some pretty shots, but that's about it.

    The first is much better. Pretty Hallowe'en-y, in fact, in terms of the setting, colors, etc. Definitely worth a rental to see if you like it.
     
  10. TorontoTrekker

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    It took long enough for someone to mention the Blood series.

    I haven't read the books yet (though I have four of them, plus one from the spinoff series), but I enjoyed the TV show. Pity nobody was watching it because it was on some obscure cable network in the US. Here in Canada, it aired on Space and I know a lot of people who were watching it. Every time I see Tanya I ask her, "When are the DVDs coming out?" (I think she said they were due out early in 2010, but I might be misremembering.)

    I've heard that Let The Right One In is very good - it was nominated for a Constellation Award this past year, but it only drew about 2% of the vote. I'd never heard of it before it showed up on the ballot - it didn't get a lot of publicity, as far as I know.
     
  11. sidious618

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    Despite earlier on saying that I'm not a Vampire fan, I'm now considering being a Victorian Vampire for Halloween. :lol:
     
  12. Australis

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    Read a review yesterday for Let The Right One In, in SFX. 5 stars, and they don't just hand them out. While no horror movie guy, I might check it out.
     
  13. Kegg

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    Well. Um.

    Lesbian vampires are as old as Camilla, which means they've actually been around longer than Dracula.

    Curiously, for some reason they remain popular.
     
  14. RJDiogenes

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    Maybe it will be on Fear.Net for Halloween. I haven't rented anything since Blockbuster moved away from next door. Although I should probably sign up over at Hollywood Video....