Ant-Man: Info, Pics, Rumors, Casting and Details till release

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. Captain Craig

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    I like that Marvel Studios has been able to obtain different style directors that were able to work within the system that MS has in place. There by adding some fingerprint of theirs to the films. I like a number of Edgar Wright films but not all so I'm not lamenting his loss. Just kinda bummed that it unfolded like it did. He should've made the film much earlier. He could have, he chose to pursue other things. Frankly Simon Pegg & Co. weren't' going anywhere, he could've made those films(At Worlds End) anytime. His priorities were different and a 6-8yr delay was his own downfall in the making as I see it. He can be upset but frankly Feige gave him lots of rope so if he's upset about changes now after all the leeway he was given he's being unrealistic.

    The Marvel Studios way is much more "old Hollywood" style film making. There is a Studio vision and narrative in place for these films. If a director can work within that framework, great, so far they've mostly been able to do that. If not, sorry, thanks for coming by the offices. MS is crafting something unique within all of the industry. They are making different genre films but using different tones and settings all in the same world. They aren't WB or Paramount where the sci-fi film, slasher flick and action film exist separately and don't ever co-exist. At MS they do.

    I had never heard of the Russo Brothers before but according to the 'net their filmography suggested CA:TWS would be a total hack fest and tank. Well....it wasn't. So while I may know little on Reed/McKay and understand to some measure the emotional lamenting by some on what's transpired I'm not prepared to right off Ant-Man over this situation at all. I see lots of over reaction in places frankly.
     
  2. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Wright and Pegg prioritized The World's End over their other film commitments when their close friend and creative collaborator (as executive producer) Eric Fellner was diagnosed with cancer. They wanted to be sure to complete the Cornetto trilogy with him. Feige signed off on the delay of Ant-Man for that reason.
     
  3. Captain Craig

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    Didn't know about the Fellner thing. Perspective change made.
     
  4. Allyn Gibson

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    Grantland has an interesting perspective on the Wright/Marvel debacle:

    Yeah, that sounds about right to me. :)
     
  5. Technobuilder

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    This was a great video showcasing the brilliance of Edgar Wright's directorial style. High Praise.

    Yeah, I was going to mention that but someone beat me to it. They were doing in for a friend, no other reason.
     
  6. Mr Light

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    <<Consistency matters. And these movies are all so intertwined from a business/perception perspective that Marvel can no longer afford to roll the dice on a hip, genre-subverting superhero film that might not do Winter Soldier numbers on its opening weekend. >>

    What about Guardians of the Galaxy, then? That's completely out of the box. It doesn't even take place on Earth and Space-Liberace is the villain :lol:
     
  7. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Simon Pegg tweeted this:

     
  8. kirk55555

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    Honestly, this sounds like a good decision. I'm a big fan of the Marvel movies, and if a movie isn't going to fit because of the director, then that's too bad. But, I trust the people in charge of making Marvel movies. I've liked all the ones they've made, and I think they'd know if a movie wasn't going to fit well with the universe. Plus, I'm not a fan of the Wright movies I've seen.

    Shawn of the Dead was ok I guess, but more quirky than funny (I don't think it even made me chuckle). Scott Pilgrim vs. the World on the other hand was outright horrible. Honestly, while I'm not saying Wright couldn't have made a good Antman movie, I liked Yes Man more than the wright films I've seen anyway. I was already hopeful that Antman would be good, but it sounds like they've gotten a director who'll make a movie fits better in the universe. That's a reason for me to still be excited about Antman.
     
  9. Alidar Jarok

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    I'd love to see it released after the movie comes out to be able to compare.
     
  10. Technobuilder

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    It may get leaked even before that the way these things go.
     
  11. Alidar Jarok

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    Given the NDA, I'm sure there would be serious repercussions of that. Plus, I'm not going to read it until after I see the movie anyway. Given this, I'd rather it be released officially after, which is what I was talking about.
     
  12. JacksonArcher

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    I'm sure the script will leak, even if it is unintentional. These things happen all the time.
     
  13. Aldo

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    :guffaw: That's a great joke, you're a funny guy :techman:
     
  14. kirk55555

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    I'll say that Shawn of the Dead just wasn't my style of humor (honestly I'm not sure what style of humor it is :vulcan:). I thought it had a few good characters, and the story was somewhat entertaining, but it never made me laug or even really got close. But I hate Scott pilgrim. It was obnoxious, the story was bad, and the characters were annoying. Also, Michael Cera is a pretty bad in everything I've seen him in, and this movie was no exception.
     
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  15. Captain Craig

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    While I enjoyed Shaun of the Dead I also found Scott Pilgrim to be a train wreck of a film.
     
  16. JacksonArcher

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    I loved Scott Pilgrim, but I can see how that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

    In regards to the Ant-Man & Edgar Wright situation, for me personally it is much easier to believe Disney - which acquired Marvel a couple years ago - had an issue with the script than Kevin Fiege or Marvel had an issue with it. Marvel knew what they were investing in back in 2006 when they hired Edgar Wright to co-write & direct Ant-Man. According to rumors, during the recent debacle Kevin Fiege was actually in Wright's corner. Apparently it was Disney, who probably thought Wright's version was too daring or risky, who wanted to homogenize Wright's vision.

    In my mind, that makes a lot of sense. According to rumors, when James Gunn was first brought on-board to write & direct Guardians of the Galaxy he delivered a much safer version than Marvel or Fiege was initially expecting. Afterwards, Feige pushed Gunn to go even weirder with it and to put his own spin on it, which he in return did. So it doesn't make sense for a studio that banks on fresh & upcoming talents like Gunn and the Russo Brothers to all of the sudden turn their back on a filmmaker who is renowned for his quirky & stylish approach. If Marvel had a problem with Wright and his take on Ant-Man they could have made this clear several years ago.
     
  17. Professor Zoom

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    This is basically my thinking as well. I never understood why everyone was heaping hate on Marvel for this. Disney had a say in this. I'm sure of it.
     
  18. Aldo

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    I'll bother to take you seriously when you bother to spell the name of the movie correctly.
     
  19. kirk55555

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    :rolleyes: How dare I spell the name of a movie I thought was just ok wrong (although I didn't actually spell the word wrong, just differently than the movie does)? Its almost like, while I don't dislike the movie, I really don't care enough about it to remember how it spells a first name that has legitimate alternative spellings :lol:
     
  20. JD

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    It doesn't matter if it's a different way to spell the same name, it's still not the way it's spelled in the title, so it's still wrong.