Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Jul 17, 2012.
This the first time I'm hearing that Hank Pym was some sort of cradle-robber.
In the 60s, using hindsight, or maybe you were there, what did you think the age difference between Hank and Jan was?
If you're asking me, I didn't start reading AVENGERS till the late 1970's. The age difference between Hank and Janet was never anything that I read about. For all I knew, they were as close in age as Peter Parker and Betty Brant.
Marvel Triple Action, reprinted early Avengers comics throughout most of the 70s.
I did say "hindsight". You can read comics form the 60s, or reprints of those comincs at any point in your life after they have been printed and delivered to a shop and the shop has put them out for sale.
Peter was 15 when Betty was J. Jonah Jameson's executive secretary and probably office manager. She had at least 5 years on Peter if she had already graduated high school and climbed to the top of the totem in the Bugle office.
Of course she did marry Flash Thompson, but then his current girlfriend is at least 10 thousand years old, so he likes to stealing form the casket.
To be a widower all you need is a dead wife.
I was in the single digits. They were both old/adults. Even in the 70s they were both old/adults. Somewhere along the line some writer or editor began over thinking things and Hank became an older man and Jan became a sweet young thing. Same thing happened with Reed and Sue. Though in that case the "evidence" is more compelling.
(Steeples fingers) Good to know. Heh heh heh.
No. Janet was always much younger than Hank. this is her very first appearance ever...
I think making her 40 or 50 wouldn't be unreasonable. Clearly younger than Douglas to fit the cradle robbing aspect of Pym, but not so young as to think that she should be with Scott Lang. That being said, Paul Rudd is in his 40s, so maybe there's no way to avoid that implication.
The more I think about this, the more I see the decision to have Pym as the older Ant-Man and not the protagonist. The biggest reason is simply that Pym is a dick. That being said, I hope he isn't the villain because that's not fair to the character either.
Michael Pena is apparently being offered a role:
But how much younger? 5 years? 10 years? The art doesn't make her look like a woman just out of puberty.
But Hank's thought bubble does. "She's not much more than a child."
A lot of people who are simply a few years older have that attitude towards "younger" people.
Reed Richards had a major touch of grey from the get-go, which was well before he and Sue got married and before Franklin was born. Is this what you mean?
Eh, I've never really seen that. To me, comments like that are about someone in their early 20s and they aren't made by people in their early 20s. I'm not saying she's 14, but it's probably something like him being 40 and she being 20 rather than him being 35 and she being 29.
That and the fact Reed fought in WWII, which ended about 16 years before FF#1 came out. So at best Reed would have to be 34 when he got his powers. He was probably older though. (Even with taking WWII out of the equation)Hard to say how old Sue was. Johnny was 16, Sue could be 10 years older than Johnny or just a couple.
I'm thing more of a 10 year gap. Hank being thirtyish and Jan being in her early twenties, but coming across as younger because she petite and ditsy.
Anyway, given that it's charitably ambiguous and later comics have made the age gap more explicit, it's not unreasonable to think the movies would have an age gap.
i think the Byrne era established that Reed was in college when he met a 12 year old Sue, who developed a crush on him.
True. That history has been recently Orwelled, and the letters column addressed the fact that Byrne is skeevy and they needed to ignore that that issue ever happened, and no one should say that they are ignorant, just tasteful.
Apparently Kyra Sedgwick first fell in love with her future husband, Kevin Bacon when she was 12. (Bacon mentioned this on the Late Show with Craig Ferguson a couple of nights ago.)
How old was Joan Lee when Stan met her? He seems to have a thing for young women falling for older men:
Reed and Sue.
Hank and Jan.
Prof. X and Jean Grey (for a brief second)
And possibly Betty and Bruce. It seems Betty was just out of boarding school when she fell for Dr. Banner.
Steve Rogers and Sharon Carter might qualify too, ( plus the added factor of her looking like his lost love and her older sister)
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