And now The Newsroom....

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Warped9, May 13, 2013.

  1. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Finally saw the ep on my DVR and I thought it was pretty decent. The Genoa thing is pretty fascinating in its evolution; continuing to really like Sloan - her and Charlie are my favorite characters to this point; loved Don's chair antics; not really liking Will hanging out with TMI lady now but...eh...

    The one thing I'm finding most pointless right now is Jim's little escapade. The elections are over, Obama won - yay! Yes , we remember. I know this show subsists off news and politics of the recent past, but this particular bit feels like someone just dug up a two-year old body and proceeded to dunk it in a tank of acid ...y'know...just to make sure an' all that. Yeah, Romney was a big fat dud, but this just seems like pissing on the man's grave now. Can some people not move on? Other than that, I thought this was a pretty good ep.
     
  2. Trekker4747

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    I think it's less "pissing on Romney's grave" and more attacking how the media acted during the election, like them not pressing harder questions on Romney's inconsistencies during the election.
     
  3. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

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    To be fair the last election was a joke on both sides. No one asked any real questiosn to either candidate.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Oh my god.

    What if close to the last episode Jim gets his half hour with the candidate... And what if Romney plays Romney?

    No script.

    Just "Jim" with Aaron in his earwig hammering it out against the devil.

    If anyone would want to rewrite history a little, buy a smidgen of redemption, it'd be Mit Romney, Lando Calrisian or Godzilla.
     
  5. Data Holmes

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    That would be pretty cool.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I googled, but all I found was outraged former Aides saying "We would NEVER throw a reporter off a bus, NEVER."
     
  7. Trekker4747

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    Uh-huh. Right.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Imagine Aaron Sorkin shat on your summer 2 years ago where you believed you'd did a cromulent thing for the enbiggening of the entire country, fricking heroic... Working, probably volunteering, towards the perfection of the political machine ensuring that the next leader of the country is righteous and magnificent, and that if your guy isn't put in office, then you put up such a good fight that no jerkoffs got ahead of your position easily.

    This is real.

    "Boo, hoo, Aaroon Sorkin is making fun of us."

    It happened.

    Google it.

    "We just want the world to know that we would NEVER eject anyone off the Romney Bus because we are small and sad and do not appreciate some Mr Hollywood millionaire asshole shitting on our summer 2 years ago and need another 15 minutes of fame by any means necessary."
     
  9. danellis

    danellis Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Romney won the nomination, so the story with most legs is with him.

    dJE
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Why am I thinking of the proverbial one legged man at an asskicking competition?
     
  11. TemporalFlux

    TemporalFlux Commodore Commodore

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    What I miss so far this season is the heart stopping moment of the episode. Season one stories would have the usual back and forth drama, and then some breaking news would happen that would cause somewhat of a gasp in the narrative. Then the date would slowly type on screen and we would see what moment of history the characters just ran into to.

    That's what made the show unique to me; and it made you feel like you really were part of the Newsroom seeing what those people go through in their job. I'm just not feeling that this year; it's turned into generic drama.
     
  12. bigdaddy

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    That's a very good point. They were idiots and screwing around in season 1 and then something would happen and kick them into high gear. If you are going to have a show take so far behind in the past that technique should be used.
     
  13. Australis

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    Hmm. So far, so so. It's still great overall, but there are moments that make me go meh. Most of Jim's stuff, some of the OWS woman's stuff (could she be any more self-righteous?). Maggie's stuff was a little tough to watch, very tense, very sad.

    I suppose the meh moments are the little stupid moments we all have at some point (sometimes, yes, we'll have one a day for weeks), so I can live with it.

    Hope it pays off as big as it's painting.
     
  14. Emh

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    Still very enjoyable but I find it rather distracting how both the OWS protester and the shitty Romney PAO are written as very arrogant and self-righteous as means to make our characters look better. And as someone who works in public affairs, I wanted to scream at the Romney PAO for how she treated Jim and company.
     
  15. IndyJones

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    My biggest eye roll moment was when the Neil's OWS friend gave them the info they needed on Genoa. It reminded me of in the pilot when everyone's sister or best friend or whatever had an in on the oil spill story.
     
  16. Data Holmes

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    They took two moments like that in the episode but self acknowledged them so well I enjoyed the joke.

    First was how they are in the hall and one says " we're going to have to have the info just fall in our laps" a second before the OWS girl turns and blurts. The second was when the hotel clerk says "I only have one room open" and the vasser reporter girl says "Who didn't see that plot twist coming". :lol:
     
  17. Count Zero

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    I was slightly upset by the way the OWS woman was being portrayed but in the end, she did get a moment to shine in her conversation with Will.

    Sloan was on fire in this episode. It's great that she's getting more scenes this season (at least it feels that way). I also laughed about Charlie's antics with the glass wall.

    Maggie's experience in Africa was heart-wrenching. I didn't expect to see that so soon, to be honest. The story was told really well, I felt, kind of subtle even though you could guess what would be happening early on.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    What happened to Maggie was not enough. Maybe I'm dark, but I imagined that cocaine fuelled child soldiers passed her around for a month before the army rescued her.

    That kid was a dipshit who deserved to die. Hiding when he should have been running. Evolution wanted him dead and Maggie was not strong enough to stop evolution.

    Deal with it.

    Although in the future if Maggie has to go into another warzone, it's not like she's going to request flak jacket made out of still living seven year old little brown boys stitched together?

    Grow a pair.
     
  19. Trekker4747

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    Yeah, what happened to Maggie didn't seem to "live up" to what I think we were being "sold." I would've expected to her to witness some true horrors. I mean, sure, the little kid she read the book to a few dozen times got killed but really from the way she was acting and what was being implied on what happened to her over there I half-expected her to have had a horrendous time with her own life in danger.

    Will's treatment of the OWS girl was harsh but I think it was more a commentary on how "lost" the OWS movement was in NOT having a unified message or plan. It was just a microcosm of the entire OWS movement which, at its core, had good intentions it just wasn't unified or nearly organized enough to get that message across.

    I'm already beyond bored with the Genoa thing, and it's going to last the whole season, isn't it?

    And, really, Jim's lucky to still have a job after passing on an interview with Romney. How utterly stupid of him to pass it over for a chance at some mediocre tail.

    The show still really is, I feel, lacking in the broadcast segments with Will, really, smacking down someone he's interviewing to make a broad commentary on some event of the time or as said up thread the moments where the show came together during a sudden crisis event in the news. I keep expecting that to happen when we get the exact date card on-screen but nothing ever happens.

    I know last season got a lot of flack for ACN/Newsnight's power of hindsight to "report things right" but I sort of liked because it, to me, felt like it was done in a way to show that the media COULD do these things right if they weren't so quick to want to break news. (Like on reporting/not-reporting Gabby Gifford's "death.")

    Sloane has been great but I think her co-workers are going quickly learn to not use her as a wingman when they need to make a confrontation with someone and need her for the "bad cop."

    The OWS chick, yeah, was way full of her self and pretty much represented man of the problems with the OWS movement but, sheesh, this chick is just up her own ass.

    And, again, I'm beyond tired of the Genoa thing. This season really should be focusing on the farce of the 2012 election which they can still get to, I know, and it's "early" yet but this Genoa thing is dominating too much. Which would be fine if we didn't already know how it's going to go thanks to the flashback style of story-telling they're doing.
     
  20. Australis

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    Charlie's moment on the glass wall did make me laugh. :)