And now, something "weird" - USS Archon, NCC-0189

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by MadMan1701A, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. UssGlenn

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    What about leaving the nacelles largely as they are and making the bussard collectors on the front one unit?
     
  2. MadMan1701A

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    That's a great idea.

    :)
     
  3. Lazarus

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    Hi Madman, I'm a bit of a lurker here don't tend to reply to many threads, but this ship you've designed looks f**king fantastic!! Terrific work! :techman:
     
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  5. Lazarus

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    In reference to the Defiant, she does have warp nacelles but the components - warp coils, bussard collectors etc - are embedded close to the main hull inside the 'wings' on either side of the ship. Presumably because the Defiant was designed as a warship the concept was to keep everything as 'tight' as possible, rather than having relatively delicate pylons thrusting out from the main body of the ship.
     
  6. largo

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    "that word you keep using... i do not think it means what you think it means."

    the definition of a 'nacelle' includes 'separate from the fuselage'. therefore, the defiant may have a warp drive, but it definitely does not have nacelles.
     
  7. Lazarus

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    Granted, but regardless of what the dictionary definition is, we're discussing an 'in-universe' scenario and the 'in-universe' definition of warp nacelle is the propulsive part of the warp engine containing the warp coils.

    Any schematic of the Defiant contains labels pointing to the 'wings' of the ship being the warp nacelles.

    So while I agree with you to an extent, the word "nacelle" when used in a Star Trek context is taken to mean a part of the overall warp drive.

    So the Defiant did have warp nacelles :techman:
     
  8. largo

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    *shrug* sure, nibble grin horror. final bin snazzy, door happen gourd nadir.
     
  9. Lazarus

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    Got no idea what you're smoking but glad we sorted that out :techman:
     
  10. MadMan1701A

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    Alright, I have something else for you guys to look at. I started with the "cowl" over both engines, and moved the connection point to that area, instead of the middle. I also moved the secondary hull back some, and straightened the edges of the pylons. I think this arrangement is good; I'm going to start cleaning up and refining, now.

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  11. AnyStar

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    i saw this one over on scifi-meshes, i like where you're going with it...

    although when i saw the thread title i immediately had a monty python flashback... haha
    "and now for something completely different"
     
  12. RichMerk

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    I like the original version much better. The new one looks too clunky to me.
     
  13. MadMan1701A

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    Thanks man. I'm glad you came out of lurker mode. :)
     
  14. MadMan1701A

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    the parts on the engines, you mean? that's the main addition. Maybe I'll try out some other ideas before I settle down on this one.
     
  15. Lazarus

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    Gotta be honest I think you were onto a winner with the first version, the additions to the nacelles seem to be adding stuff for the sake of adding stuff :)
     
  16. RichMerk

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    ^ What he said. :)

    I also don't care for how the secondary hull is tacked on waaaay back there. It doesn't look like it really belongs there.

    Actually, if you deleted the secondary hull altogether and finished off the new back end, you might be left with a pretty nifty design, but we'd be straying away from the Daedalus.
     
  17. largo

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    nope, the new version doesn't do it for me, either. now it just looks like a pack of bic pens had a drunken orgy with some sort of optometrist's instrument, and nine months later...

    if you're going to do the four nacelle thing, do it. show 'em if you've got 'em.
     
  18. thesovereignman

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    I agree with what has been said :) keep the nacelles seperate.
     
  19. Warped9

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    Since the Abramsverse isn't TOS' prehistory, who cares?
     
  20. Wingsley

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    ^ Finally, I'm not alone!