And Cumberbatch's Character Is? [spoilers]

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  1. King Daniel Beyond

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    Erm... *searches around* I can't cite it:alienblush:. Maybe it was just some fan speculation I read. Apologies.
     
  2. Xaios

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    Maybe he is in a manner of speaking. After all, CEO stands for Chief Executive Officer. An executive officer on a ship is the second in command. Maybe the chief executive officer is the second in command for all of Starfleet. :vulcan:

    Eh, probably not. :lol:
     
  3. diankra

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    It's very easy to do, in a way that makes the film self-contained for people watching it as a one-off.
    The pre-credits sequence is a spectacular mini-episode in which Cumberbatch's character apparently gets killed. The main movie is set a few years later, when he returns to take his revenge.
    Not saying that's what they're going to do, but it's almost as basic an approach to plotting as Act1/2/3/4.
     
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    As I said, it's certainly possible, perhaps even not all that difficult. It still strikes me as odd if that's really all there is to it. If my other theory is correct, that Cumbebatch is not playing the ultimate villain in this movie, then all bets are off.
     
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    There aren't that many people named Harrison in TOS that I recall. Could it be he is related to the William B. Harrison who was a member of the BEAGLE, the ship captained by RM Merrick in BREAD & CIRCUSES? If he was P.O.'d about his brother being lost on a ship surveying an earth-type world, he might have prime directive issues (like OMNE in the PHOENIX novels, for those of you who go WAY back) and decide to interfere in his own way with Earth/Starfleet.

    Hey, it's ridiculous, but everybody's grasping at straws here (when I checked the episode's teaser just now, I was really thinking the character mentioned was named John Harrison & I was going to have a real a-ha moment (not the band.)
     
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    All of this back-and-forth stuff re: people trying to read way too much into this character's name is starting to leave me rather annoyed. It's obvious that Roberto Orci, way back when he gave the interview in which he said/hinted that Cumberbatch's character was from established TOS lore, did a classic switcheroo by telling us that Alice Eve's character was new to canon and Cumberbatch's character was taken from TOS lore when the opposite is actually true.
     
  7. AJBlue98

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    Now that’s a stretch. Remember that Orci later commented that he misspoke with regards to one of those characters. Clearly Cumberbatch is Harrison the extra from TOS; Orci misspoke about Alice Eve cum Carol Marcus being a new character.

    The “ultimate villain?”
     
  8. Vektor

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    Well, another villain besides Cumberbatch, anyway.
     
  9. AJBlue98

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    Not to be too gauche, but I must recant my above argument, at least in part. I now am of the opinion that rather than Redshirt Harrison from TOS, John Harrison is in fact Johnny, the kid on the side of the road at the beginning of Star Trek (2009). Frankly, this scenario makes much more sense than J.J. having bombed the typecasting of a Star Trek (the original series) extra-cum-supervillain.
     
  10. 137th Gebirg

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    I thought of that too initially, but J.J. specifically said that the villain would be from TOS. Johnny is not from TOS.
     
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  12. AJBlue98

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    True, but as I posted on another thread:


     
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  13. ralph

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    Trek Movie guess: Khan.

    My God. Is that true? Harrison Khan? :eek:
     
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    That would be Khan John Noonien Singh Harrison the first to you.
     
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