Ancient Aliens

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by BillJ, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. DarthTom

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    That's very true. There are individuals who post on this website who believe they will be traveling in their Star Ships at warp speed.

    So who are the bigger nut-cakes - the one's that with conviction believe that Jesus brought a man back from death - the one's that believe that the US should fund the building of the Enterprise in orbit - or the one's who believe that aliens helped our ancient ancestors move 100 ton stones up mountainsides?
     
  2. Silvercrest

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    Given that choice, I'll say the Enterprise folks.
     
  3. DarthTom

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    BTW, just to show you I'm not a total Von Daniken fruitcake myself - is there another season of Ancient Aliens this year? Because I think they've gone off the deep end with some of the speculation about pyramid power plants and all of the other far fetched bullshit in later episodes.

    For me, it was interesting ponder how ancient people were able to perform seemingly miraculous engineering feats with basic and primitive tools and if it was possible they got some 'help,' or at least investigate how they might have accomplished that.

    But when the series started to become absurd with other speculation I started to check out.

    I don't know how many more ittirations they can go through without either becoming duplicative or outrageous or both.
     
  4. cooleddie74

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    Yeah, there's another season but it seems to air exclusively on H2, the History spinoff a lot of people don't get in their cable packages. Based on the ads I've seen on History the H2 episodes seem to be very Giorgio Tsoukalos heavy with him doing a lot of remote shooting at archaeological sites.
     
  5. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Refereed by the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:lol:
     
  6. Herkimer Jitty

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    Maybe if they actually cared about and understood the engineering at those sites, sure. But they don't. It's 1 minute of "this baffles me and I don't understand how it was built, therefore noone could have built this" leading into 10 more minutes of "therefore aliens."

    These people aren't archaeologists. They aren't anthropologists. Tsoukalos, for instance, has a degree in sports information and communications. Actual anthropological practices are ancillary when it comes to the ancient astronaut... idea.

    Yes, idea. Its not even a hypothesis, much less a scientific theory.
     
  7. DarthTom

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    Fair enough. Do you find any archaeological site to be baffling how ancient people built without some kind of 'help' and.or quantum leap in technlocical ability based on understood technologies at the time?

    Again, on a few occasions I think the series asks some interesting questions. But agreed the lionshare of the series is about nonesense.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    Suffice it to say, any TV series that spends most of a one-hour program contemplating whether or not Albert Einstein was an extraterrestrial genetic experiment designed to increase human intelligence has its issues with being a scientifically sound show.
     
  9. FordSVT

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    Because the assertion itself is bullshit. You're falling into their con by not questioning the questions themselves.

    Read.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting.html

    Read.

    http://www.dumbassguide.info/blog.php?bid=87
     
  10. sojourner

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    Those links might make The Castellan's head implode.
     
  11. Silvercrest

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    Haw! That second link is priceless!

    The next time Ancient Aliens brings up a "smoking gun", they should recognize they shot themselves in the foot with it.
     
  12. Lonemagpie

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    It reached *that* stage in the pilot episode...
     
  13. Gary7

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    I am amused by how an outrageous claim will be made, later disproven, then dismissed to go onto the next outrageous claim.

    The whole notion of moving enormous rocks that required alien intervention was debunked when scientists discovered enough evidence to understand how Stonehenge components were hauled around. Some enterprising guy came up with a very clever pulley and lever system to move rocks of the same size, weight, and proportion without any motorized assistance. Despite people living in a time considered primitive by our standards, there were some intensely impressive achievements of mathematical understanding made that enabled certain groups to accomplish feats that would leave most human beings today baffled in amazement.

    But "Ancient Aliens" is such a fun and compelling alternative!
    :lol:

    Frankly, unless there is truly some kind of "space folding" technique possible with the right amount of power and device orchestration, travel between worlds is sadly linear and VERY long term. Which means that considering any sentient aliens being able to visit us is just outright impossible. We're on the periphery of the Milky Way galaxy. There's far more activity going on near the core to keep sentient beings busy than to wander off into the vast void of multi-generational space time on a mostly doomed quest to see if there's anybody living out on the periphery. Also, considering the time and distance problem, the fact that our lives have been so brief on this planet, we're too far away for anybody to even realize that sentient life has formed here.
     
  14. RAMA

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    Part of the Fermi paradox suggests that there has been plenty of time without the need of light travel or breaking the laws of physics for aliens to have appeared to us. But yes, I think it's possible galactic center is just way more interesting..
     
  15. DarthTom

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    You make Star Trek fan boys cry when you say that interstellar travel is technologically unfeasible. ;)
     
  16. The Green Mushroom

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    I have been watching it and while most of it has been in the "It's So Bad, It's Good" territory, the scientific hooey they are spewing is seriously making the show tread to a level of "It is So Bad, It's Gone from Good Back to Bad" that I never knew existed.

    Among the gems from the last batch of episodes:

    • Aliens invented the afterlife and all ancient tombs EVERYWHERE in the world were attempts to FedEx the dead back to the alien homeworld.
    • The Great Pyramid is a giant microwave oven powered by water sloshing around in the basement that beams electricity to France and Mexico
    • Albert Einstein and some other famous thinking guys were mouthpieces for ideas that aliens beamed into their heads.
    • Mercury had no use whatsoever to ancient civilizations and the river of mercury that the Chinese said was in the tomb of the First Emperor isn't really a river of mercury, it is the circuit board for a really big computer
    • The Egyptians were afraid of the Apis Bulls and buried them in alien built tombs to either: save themselves from Zombie Apis Bulls or send the bulls back to the aliens
     
  17. Silvercrest

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    I'm good with that last one. The more they acknowledge that they're talking "bull", the better.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    It wasn't Aliens. It never was.

    It was....

    [​IMG]

    PONIES.
     
  19. The Green Mushroom

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    I think that was the last episode.


    I'm not kidding...Hair Man decided that a picture of a running horse in some ancient temple was really the picture of an alien rocket ship that people assumed was a flying horse.
     
  20. Kemaiku

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    Oh good, now they think Pegasi made the pyramids instead, that's...slightly better?