Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

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  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    There's a thought. With so much Marvel programming now, and more on the way, would it make sense to create a Marvel subforum?
     
  2. Alidar Jarok

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    Well, I've suggested a comicbook forum that includes comics, live action, cartoons, etc. It didn't make sense to me to narrow it to just Marvel.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

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    No thank you.

    If we let you ship us off to some dank box on the periphery, I'm not sure you'll ever let us out.
     
  4. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    A comics subform has been suggested and suggest ad infinitum and it's continually rejected. We do have a sister forum for the CSI series, though!
     
  5. propita

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    I am bizarrely proud of myself that, having dvr'd the first 5 episodes, I watched them and read ALL of the posts in this thread.

    What a pointless accomplishment! Ah, the joys of not working!
     
  6. theenglish

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    One thing Wheadon likes to do is place characters in a series that are fated to be killed or turn out not to be as "good" as we think they are. I got the impression from this scene that maybe Fitz is the mole we thought Skye was.

    I really think that the suggestions are decoys. I think that something happened to Coulson that is "out of the ordinary" but that he's not an artificial lifeform. (In fact, I see no reason the original Torch can't appear in an episode as long as his name is not used.) I think that there is something else--perhaps he is immortal, for example.
     
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  7. Gryffindorian

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    I visit this forum often enough, so I don't get overwhelmed by the volume of posts in the threads I follow. Besides, I'm not obligated to read every single post, but it's nice to chime in and put in my two cents. :)
     
  8. CorporalCaptain

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    Oh, yeah, so apparently May died before too, and I'd suspect that's related to why she didn't do field work anymore at first. Did anyone mention that yet?
     
  9. Alidar Jarok

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    We mentioned it, but we don't all agree with that interpretation. Here was my take:

     
  10. CorporalCaptain

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    ^ OK, found it.

    I'm going to argue that if she didn't actually die too, then it was a poorly written line. That's because it's considered bad form to compare your bad experiences with someone else's when yours pale by comparison with theirs, and that's the sort of courtesy that I have a hard believing that Coulson and May wouldn't both respect. :shrug:
     
  11. The Old Mixer

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    Who's to say yet whether her experience paled in comparison to his? She might have been captured and tortured for months, for example.
     
  12. CorporalCaptain

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    Alright, I would probably buy that. I think that that's a little dark, given what we've seen so far in the show, but sure....
     
  13. Forbin

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    THREE, sir.
    (*throws Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch*)
     
  14. The Old Mixer

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    Or she could have been brainwashed and turned against SHIELD...or could have had to make a tough call in the field that was the right call for the mission, but cost the lives of her teammates. Whatever she went through, Coulson knows about it, understands it, and clearly doesn't consider it to pale before his own experience.
     
  15. CorporalCaptain

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    I agree with this.

    When I saw the scene, including the part about scars that remind us, I just had a limited view of what the real possibilities ought to be. I'm perfectly willing to postpone judgment on whether it makes sense until after the revelation. :techman:
     
  16. DEWLine

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    I agree with the Old Mixer re: Coulson and May's after-action conversation.

    One more reveal to look forward to...
     
  17. Christopher

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    It's worth pointing out:

    When people are trying to misdirect you, they want you to jump to conclusions based on inadequate evidence. Whatever first impressions we take away from this show are probably the ones they want to trick us into taking away. So we should take care to question and second-guess our first impressions, and to be open to alternative readings of what we see and hear.
     
  18. The Old Mixer

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    I'm sure that her scars are the kind that you can't show by taking off your shirt...which is our loss, but it makes her an intriguing character.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    She turns 50 in 11 days.
     
  20. Forbin

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    It's interesting that she came across as a mature, rather plain professional woman as Senator Wen on Eureka, but put her in leathers and an "I'll kill you for breathing wrong" expression, and she's hot as hell.
     

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