Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Trekker4747, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2003
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Trekker4747: I'll say it again: loving the idea of "Classic" Asgard being depicted as a variant on the Alderson Disc concept.
     
  2. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2003
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Aldo: You and I are in agreement on that point.

    Also, I suspect regional field offices have their own dedicated investigation units.
     
  3. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    A Long Time Ago...
    You know you can edit your posts to add more, right?
     
  4. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2003
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Tired tonight. Halfway brain-dead at the moment.
     
  5. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    On the other hand, past history with superhumans has shown that they don't always respond well to the hard sell, or to a military organization charging in to surround them. That could get people hurt. Maybe the idea is that a softer sell, approaching them with a smaller team, would be less threatening, less likely to provoke conflict.
     
  6. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Location:
    Oxford, PA
    Plus, as I've probably already pointed out, the flying sports car has been a staple of SHIELD comics for nearly fifty years now. At this point, it's like complaining that the Silver Surfer's cosmic surfboard is kinda silly. Or that Bruce Banner turns into a giant green monster.

    It comes with the comic-book universe.
     
  7. Mr Light

    Mr Light Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 1999
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    <<It's probably worth pointing out, in the MCU at least, Norse gods aren't "real" so much as they're just long-lived, near immortal alien whom ancient humans took to be gods.>>

    "You haven't seen his arms" :lol:
     
  8. theenglish

    theenglish Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2001
    Location:
    Suriname
    Exactly, the car is a well-known part of shield. I was happy that they kept it.

    Regarding the concerns about this being the only team dealing with threats, I did not get that impression. I thought that this was basically a group taking a smaller scale approach than the rest of SHEILD, flying under the radar so to speak. That is why they are using "old" tech rather than the carrier and keeping a low profile. This was also the reason Coulson wanted to recruit Skye.

    From a production perspective, this allows for in-universe stories that don't rely on heavy special effects.
     
  9. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    Yeah, I got the impression that they would be dealing with the smaller scale issues that don't necessarily require the whole agency. You know like the one guy with superpowers we got here, or the one piece of tech we got last week.
    Basically I think they'll be the ones dealing with the smaller problems while we see all of the big issues in the movies.
     
  10. Nick Ryder

    Nick Ryder Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI Da Brew City
    Also a way to introduce smaller, more 'street level' characters too. I mean honestly I totally think Cloak and Dagger or Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing could easily show up in an episode as "Heroes for Hire" and it would work far better on TV than it would on the big screen.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Historically internal bookkeeping means that even Marvel has to pay Marvel to use Marvel characters.

    Logically all the characters they are allowed to use gratis, everything/one directly associated with S.H.I.E.L.D. as well as their wish-list, which would have been arranged months ago when the lawyers were making out, that will be fixed until it's time to renegotiate after probably season 3 or 5.
     
  12. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Location:
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Probably, but there's a couple of places it would have worked nicely-- notably Ward's entry into level 7 scene at the beginning.

    No reason, but if you're going to name drop a relatively obscure anthology title, you'd think they'd pick the one related to the subject matter.

    The reason that TV and movie adaptations of superheroes and such pretty much always fail on a creative level (if not the financial level), is that the producers seem embarrassed by the source material and go mainstream. This stuff is supposed to be pure imagination, it's supposed to be about the creativity and the artistry, it's supposed to be off the wall and over the top; watering it down to the level where mundanes are comfortable with it just takes the magic out of it.
     
  13. bbjeg

    bbjeg Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 24, 2013
    Location:
    Stuck in transwarp.
    I liked it but it was a bit campy (though I think that was their goal).

    I'm sure if the show gets big enough, we'll see all sorts of one-shot 2nd-string heroes make an appearance (around season 3).
     
  14. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    I'll just reiterate what others have said...it's pretty silly to complain about a flying car in a universe that already established a flying aircraft carrier.

    I have to wonder if Tony didn't design the helicarrier as a way of massively one-upping the old man....
     
  15. Agent Richard07

    Agent Richard07 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2001
    I had no problem with the flying car.
     
  16. bbjeg

    bbjeg Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 24, 2013
    Location:
    Stuck in transwarp.
    ^I had no problem with it though I couldn't help thinking of back to the future.
     
  17. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Funny thing is, as soon as they introduced Lola, the thought crossed my mind that she might turn out to be a flying car, but I didn't think they'd have the balls to do it....
     
  18. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Seriously, is Back to the Future people's only referent for flying cars? What about The Jetsons, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Supercar, Blade Runner, etc.?
     
  19. Agent Richard07

    Agent Richard07 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2001
    The whole thing did scream "Back to the Future" with the wheels going into hover mode, the takeoff and the fact that it was a fun bit tacked on at the end.
     
  20. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    A Long Time Ago...
    It was more the staging of the scene, what with Coulson putting on the shades and everything ala Doc Brown. Hell, they should have gone ahead and used the line from BTTF. He could have followed it by dove tailing his comment of "sorry, I couldn't resist" from the beginning of the episode. It would have seemed less "cheesy" I think.
     

Share This Page