Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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  1. BillJ

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    I like continuity just fine and I had sex with the wife yesterday.
     
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  3. marillion

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    Sorry I'm late to the game on this one, but I'm going to disagree with you a bit on the Dr. Who thought... I've never seen Dr. Who more popular (at least here in the states) than it is right now.. Yes, the marketing, both social a traditional has been much more prevailent that ever before, but I see non-geeky kids my daughter's age (15) wearing t-shirts, hats, socks and snapping up the toys and knick-knacks at a feverish clip. These are the same kinds of kids who scoffed at my love of things Who way back in the 80's.

    A whole new generation is digging on Doctor Who and I think that bodes well.
     
  4. The Wormhole

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    I know Doctor Who's popularity is at an all-time high, especially in the US. I just find the episodes of Moffat's run require more foreknolwdge of previous episodes than the episodes of RTD's did. Strictly IMO, of course.
     
  5. The Mirrorball Man

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    True, although most of the episodes in season 7a were, I think, pretty much standalone and very easy to get into.
     
  6. Shazam!

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    That didn't stop him making Stat Trek
     
  7. DalekJim

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    RTD's final few episodes are incomprehensible if you haven't seen the previous 4 series and specials. All of Series 7A is entirely accessible to a new viewer.
     
  8. The Wormhole

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    That might be true about The End of Time, but that's a finale. Finales shouldn't have non-fans in mind, since they aren't good starting points at all.
     
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    I'd say a new viewer would understand pretty much all of Parting of the Ways and Doomsday. Then the show became increasingly self-obsessed.
     
  10. The Wormhole

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    I'm not saying a finale can't be accessible to new viewers, just that it doesn't have to be. A finale is the resolution to a season's worth of storylines, and if that means requiring foreknowledge, than the finale is the one time to do that. Besides, all RTD's finales include flashback clips to bring everyone up to speed anyway.
     
  11. Alidar Jarok

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    Yeah, I think that's true. Although I don't think there really needs to be a lot of knowledge of previous episodes. The ongoing story arc is generally only build upon in major episodes and each season has a different one. So that's similar to RTD. The big exception to this rule was River Song. I think that's done now - the mystery has been revealed.
     
  12. The Wormhole

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    Though it does seem like we're gearing up for another similar mystery as we try to figure out who Clara Oswin Oswald is.
     
  13. Alidar Jarok

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    But that's the season mystery, no? That's nothing more than Bad Wolf or Torchwood. You don't need to watch last season, even, in order to understand it.
     
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    The Silence plot went through season 5 and 6 and will no doubt come into play again in the future. Personally, I've really enjoyed that storyline so no complaints from me.
     
  15. The Wormhole

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    I suppose so, though traditionally Christmas specials have been left out of the season arcs, with minor exceptions like a Torchwood reference in The Christmas Invasion and a mention of Mr Saxon in The Runaway Bride.
     
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  17. Alidar Jarok

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    Traditionally, the Christmas story wasn't in the middle of the season, though. The season started with Asylum of the Daleks, which is where Clara's mystery started.
     
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  20. BillJ

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    Likely means he's done with Trek.
     
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