Abrams Directing Star Wars

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Kamdan, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Franklin

    Franklin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I may be dichotomizing this too much, but compared to "Star Wars", what is there in "Star Trek" to attract kids? Kathryn Janeway coffee mugs? Spock sheets?
    Especially if a kid knows nothing of either franchise, is a six year-old more likely to be attracted to a Spock action figure in the toy aisle, or a C3PO one? What nine year-old is going to want a McCoy doll over a Wookie or R2D2? Which character looks more swash-buckling to a kid, Kirk in uniform holding a phaser, or Hans Solo dressed as a Jedi Knight wielding a light saber? Which would be cooler to a kid, being Darth Vader on Halloween or being a Klingon?

    Comparatively, "Star Wars" is the strange, new world, with new life and new civilizations that "Star Trek" is always supposedly seeking out. "Star Trek" is us. Its world is familiar. It also has to make some sense. SW is totally alien, and doesn't want to be familiar to anyone (after all, it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away), and it therefore has more weird and cool things that don't even have to make sense. The weirder and cooler the better.
     
  2. BillJ

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    Agreed. I think Trek lost this when it became a "franchise".
     
  3. lurok

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    if I collected, wouldn't mind this :)

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  4. DarthTom

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    I'm hoping that Abrams can give Star Wars more depth than it's had before in terms of a plot and quite frankly finding some actors who actually are good at their craft while not losing the child appeal that the series has had.

    One thing I think JK Rowling did brilliantly with the Potter series is that she deepened and darkened the story without IMO making it less appealing to children. In so doing it broadened the fan base.
     
  5. Jeyl

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    Geezos cripes. Comparing that to Playmates' line of figures for JJ's Star Trek, it's almost Hot Toys quality in comparison.
     
  6. DarthTom

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    I'd say so.


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    BTW, who the fuck is paying $250-$400 for a Star Fleet uniform
     
  7. Franklin

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    No kidding. And at $290 for a gold tunic, you should at least get captain's stripes, and not be a lowly lieutenant.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    I actually didn't mind the 2009 Star Trek figures that much. Spock Prime and Nero looked amazing, but sadly they were among the first ones to sell out....by the time the movie left theaters most of the leftover, unsold figures were Sulu and Scotty. Mostly Sulu. John Cho's figure got no love.
     
  9. SalvorHardin

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  10. DarthTom

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    This article on CNN I think pretty much sums up all of the angst about this. Has anyone monitored popular Wars posting sites? I bet they are going nuts as well. LOL

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  11. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Do you think that with Abrams doing Star Wars there might actually be some, you know, sex appeal to the damned thing? He got Spock and Uhura together rather unexpectedly in Star Trek, and that's turning out really cool.

    Of course no one wants to see Fisher and Ford bumping uglies this late in the day, but there have got to be new young characters carrying the movie.

    Saldana should be in it. That would be the trifecta - Avatar, Star Trek and Star Wars.
     
  12. Greg Cox

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    Well, aside from the umpteen novelists who have done so. :)
     
  13. DalekJim

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    *sigh*

    I remain the only fan of Vonda McIntyre's The Crystal Star. It's nothing like Star Wars, everybody acts out of character and the plot leads nowhere... but it's a wonderfully bizarre read.
     
  14. JarodRussell

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    As long as Abrams isn't ANYWHERE near Orci, Kurtzman, Lindelof or Burke, him directing Star Wars might not be such a catastrophe.

    But his preferred visual style would still suck incredibly in a Star Wars film. Shaky cam, whip pans and lens flares? Hell no.

    The fan thing will be funny. Star Trek purposely didn't give fuck about the fans because it was run into the ground, and they were all like "We're making this for the general audience, and if yo Trek fans HAPPEN to like it, good for you.". But this isn't gonna fly with the Star Wars audience, nor is there any need to do it, so they will be all like "This one is for the fans!" Hilarious.
     
  15. DalekJim

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    No Orci and Kurtzman is why I'm optimistic. Most of the problems with Trek 09 are with the shitty script. The visual style irritates me a lot too at times but otherwise it's very cinematic and not too bad. Frankly, the writers of Transformers 2 have no interesting thoughts to ever offer me.

    I hope he doesn't use this style and tries to distance this from his Trek films. It seems likely, although I'd wager we'll still get lens flare.

    Star Trek fans have a stereotype of being nerds so JJ Abrams' mean-spirited "This isn't aimed at THOSE people!" remarks were just to make his product appear cooler and more mainstream. He gets to be more honest with Wars as he'd just be insulting himself if he said the same thing.
     
  16. BillJ

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    Political spin machines would be awestruck at how this out of context remark has been blown out of proportion. :lol:
     
  17. Greg Cox

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    Vonda was actually one of my old writing instructors, but I confess I've never read that one.

    It's a small world . . . .
     
  18. panthers34343

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    Double post.
     
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  19. BillJ

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    Editing is your friend. :techman:
     
  20. Admiral Buzzkill

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    And yet, you loved his first Star Trek movie: