Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter produced by Tim Burton in the works

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  1. { Emilia }

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter produced by Tim Burton in the work

    I love how you try to paint historical research's results that have been verified through peer-review in a scientific process as "old".

    Whereas your point of view is obviously not old and therefore more valid?

    Dude, it's not 1863 any more. You can stop.
     
  2. Nelly334

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    The combiantion of disqualifying confederate officers from voting and allowing black men to vote effectively weakened the white populations political power int he south...your talking points are not verified history its just the lies that the Union fed to their citizens and other countries to justify their unlawful war.
     
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    Yeah, I was going to get there too. But I suppose that to people who have no idea what they are talking about, good research and bad research look virtually the same, so they are free to pick the version that agrees with their prejudices.

    And on the same page: even if all the "Yankees" are beholden to "Union propaganda", how comes that non-American historical researchers, who clearly don't have a dog in this fight and thus are more likely to be unbiased, come to exactly the same conclusions as the "Yankee" historians, while virtually all Southern apologists hail from the South? (and are all quite butthurt at the resolution of the war?) It should at least make people think about it...
     
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    That doesn't explain how blacks weakened the South by being able to vote. Nor does it explain how the South would be strengthened by removing blacks from the voting roles.
     
  5. Nelly334

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    Isn't it obvious, the blacks were reliant on northern intervention for their safety and freedom, by stopping a number of whites from voting and allowing the blacks to vote, it in effect made the southern states easier to control and occupy.
     
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    The victor writes the history books, not the loser, the euros read the history that the union vote, aka lies.
     
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    And don't you think that "blacks were reliant on northern intervention for their safety and freedom" suggests something suspicious about the CSA?

    Historians don't read the history books, they write them.
     
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    Still explains nothing, except a belief in white exceptionalism on your part. How are blacks weakening anything by being able to vote?
     
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    No, the blacks would of been free in at most 30 years anyway so they'd be fine, the industrial revolution would of made slavery obselete.
     
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    If you can't grasp what i wrote then ask a friend to explain it to you...
     
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    You still haven't explained how the South is weakened by blacks being able to vote.
     
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    Even accepting that (and reasonable people don't), it means, "oh well, only 30 years of slavery, it's nothing to write about"? Especially for those alive at the time.

    Do you even read what you write?
     
  13. Nelly334

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    Confederate deaths were about 260,000 of which 93,000 were killed in combat, while Union deaths were 360,000 of which 110,000 deaths were in combat. Disease was the major cause of death in the civil war. Out of 620,000 deaths, over 400,000 were from diseases.

    Were all those dead worth it, was freeign the slaves earlier (not the real cause of the war) worth the loss of life, I say no it was not.
     
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    Well, if the South was so keen on saving lives, it could have just, you know, not seceded.
     
  15. Nelly334

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    The South had to do the right thing in fighting federal thuggery.
     
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    Or the south could have abolished slavery instead of trying to expand it into the western territories. Also, You still haven't explained how giving blacks the vote weakened the south.
     
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    Ah only 30 years, how nice.
     
  18. Nelly334

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter produced by Tim Burton in the work

    Yes I did injecting northern friendly votes weakens the traditional southern political structure I will not repeat it again READ and THINK this time.
     
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    They made jim Crow laws anyway, so its not like their lives were greatly improved anyway.
     
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    Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter produced by Tim Burton in the work

    No, you asserted their votes weakened the south. Being part of the southern political structure, how are blacks weakening the south.