A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

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  1. Venardhi

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    B1. The last time they saw each other was when the Iron Islands rebelled. Ned was always more of the quiet loner type and it took someone like Robert to drag him out of his shell. Beside that, he never much cared for the society of the south. After his brother joined the Nights Watch it made sense for him to stay in the north as his heir was still a child and there must always be a Stark in Winterfell.

    B2. Probably not, She seemed to think comparatively little of him next to his fantasy of her.

    B3. Aye, it is debatable that the family insanity did indeed pass her by.

    S1. They filmed flashbacks (or possibly a prologue?) for the first season but cut them all and any other opportunities to show such things have also been left out. Clearly they would rather keep the focus on current events.

    S2. Probably

    S3. Yeup. A 15 year old acting like Jon makes a lot more sense than an 18 year old.
     
  2. hyzmarca

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    Dany's problem is that she doesn't know how to run a country and is getting frustrated by how difficult it is. This isn't that much of a mark against her, no one currently alive in the setting knows how to run a country. And, indeed, many institutions that are absolutely vital to good and fair governance simply haven't even been thought of at this point in time.

    The Sons of the Harpy are a good example. Anyone from modern Earth would immediately see that the solution is to create a national investigative and law enforcement service that answers to the crown and empower them to investigate such crimes. It isn't all that difficult to infiltrate a subversive organization or flip one of its members.

    But J. Edgar Hoover hasn't been born yet in the world Dany lives in and the concept of a national police force isn't something that's really come up yet, certainly not a professional one. She isn't sufficiently innovative to come up with the idea on her own.
     
  3. CaptainCanada

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    I would say the obvious answer to the Sons of the Harpy is to kill the guy who is obviously their leader.
     
  4. Ruaidhri

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  5. superdeluxe

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    Legendary Actress Diana Rigg cast as Queen of Thorns according to Daily Mail:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-ahead-Spice-Girls-musical-Viva-Forever.html

     
  6. Brendan Moody

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    I think Rigg would be a great choice, but it's the Daily Mail, so who knows? It's not encouraging that they don't know the third season has already started shooting.
     
  7. superdeluxe

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    There was speculation out there that Rigg was involved, maybe that was what the Daily Mail was running with.
     
  8. sidious618

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    I sure hope it's true because that'd be fucking awesome.
     
  9. Brendan Moody

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    Diana Rigg and many other new cast confirmed: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Massive_Comic-Con_Casting_Reveals/

     
  10. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    And season three now has a premiere date: the 31st March 2013.
     
  11. backstept

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    I'm not sure why Dondarrion has been re-cast . . . but really, he was only in 1 episode in season 1 and I doubt it'll make much difference

    I also think Tormund Giantsbane was well cast

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  12. InklingStar

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    I guess we will not be seeing Cat visiting her father in his deathbed.

    Good to see Anguy, but what about Tom O'Sevens?
     
  13. Brendan Moody

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    I sincerely doubt there was ever any question of the season one Beric playing the role in season three. David Michael Scott was basically a featured extra, someone they used to set up that plot point without the impracticalities of finding a permanent actor two years before you need him to do any real acting.

    This isn't necessarily a full list of new characters; we know they're casting Mance Rayder and Daario Naharis for season three and there's been no announcement on either one, so there's at least a little more to come.
     
  14. superdeluxe

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    really like the cast!
     
  15. superdeluxe

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    So thoughts on who should be Ramsay, Vargo or Mance?
     
  16. Shurik

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    Dream cast or realistic choices?
    Dream cast - David Oakes as Ramsay and James Purefoy as Mance. I don't care much about Vargo.
    But judging from all the previous casting, I'm sure Nina Gold will find the best possible actors for those roles.
     
  17. superdeluxe

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    I think sometimes realistic can fall in line with Dream. I mean last year they signed a couple of well known television actors to Game of Thrones. I wouldn't mind a recognizable face as Mance
     
  18. Shurik

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    Mance is big enough role for someone recognizable, Ramsay probably too. Vargo - not sure.
     
  19. superdeluxe

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    TV Spoilers said Rufus Sewell would make a great mance...and I agree!
     
  20. Kosh Naranek

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    So - into book two now...

    How are they going to deal with the whole Rhaegar thing in the series I wonder?

    In the books, he seems a quite important person for a dead guy. I assume that all of the remembering the POV characters are doing in the books must be leading somewhere.

    Are they just going to up in season X, Y or Z have loads of exposition explaining his importance or just drop it?

    But how can they drop it as the books hint at the true story of what went down in the rebellion being pivotal?

    and if they do cast Rhaegar...I would like Tom Hiddleston
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