A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

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  1. Skywalker

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    Yep, pretty much. :D
     
  2. Yoda

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    Valyrian Steel prices about to spike all across Westeros.
     
  3. Relayer1

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    Have I missed something ?
     
  4. M.A.C.O.

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    How many Valyrian steel blades are running around Westeros?

    There's Jon Snow's sword.

    Brienne and Joffery's blades, which were reforged from Ned Stark's giant sword.

    Tyrion/Littlefinger's dagger.

    Any others?
    Is Stannis' blade Valyrian?
     
  5. Venardhi

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    I think there are a few hundred at most in Westeros at this point most likely, including stuff like the dagger. Mostly powerful families or families that used to be. The Daynes have one, though Dawn is exceptional even by Valyrian steel standards having been forged from a meteorite. Lord Tarley has one. Lyn Corbray has one, there are a dozen or so mentioned by name or house through the books, not including the ones carried by characters in Essos.
     
  6. Captaindemotion

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    That battle was unreal.
     
  7. Venardhi

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    I'm kind of disappointed by this latest depiction of The Others, I must say. Where is the infamous alien grace? We had one who was little more than a barbarian lumbering around, and then a posturing wizard, both in drab uninspiring armor. They were already unlike I had ever pictured in the books, but now they're walking back the few things they had going for them to begin with.
     
  8. 137th Gebirg

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    ^^^ All good points, but on the flip-side, there was nothing "Power Rangers" about this fight scene and would probably explain why the rest of the season has been somewhat lackluster. They clearly put all their budget eggs in this basket and I think it really paid off. Stylistic impressions of the Ice King and his generals aside (I agree that they do appear kind of ordinary-looking), everything about that scene seemed meticulously choreographed, blocked and executed. The bits with Wun Wun flinging Walkers about like dolls and smashing them with flaming trees was positively stunning, and the "element of jeopardy" that has been missing in so many episodes this season, was not only in the forefront, but broke its foot off in our collective asses. In many ways (at least, IMO), the Battle of Hardhome has made up considerably for an otherwise dull season - with material that was never in the books. This was vintage GoT!
     
  9. sidious618

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    Like I said in the other thread, I definitely prefer the image of the Others painted in the book, but I actually really like the design of the Night King, even if he's not what I'd imagine. In terms of grace, I thought the Other that fought Jon had a lot more of that, especially when he near floated down to the ground.
     
  10. Venardhi

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    We've seen really great warriors fight with far more effortless power before though. The new Magnar or whoever that Thenn character was didn't exactly give him much of a fight trying to swing that giant axe indoors. I didn't notice much of a "float" when he jumped down. It was just kind of matter of fact. I dunno, it just didn't do much for me. At least with the Night King character they've maintained that sort of "living ice" look, even if I think the armor looks dumb and ill-suited on all of them.
     
  11. InklingStar

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    I thought the armor looked great. It would be hard to precisely duplicate how they are described in the books, but they look inhuman, frightening, ancient, and elemental - exactly how they should, in my opinion.
     
  12. Relayer1

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    There's several ways of looking at it.


    Fire magic could be a balancing force pushing against the ice magic that has been in the ascendance for thousands of years - it is restoring equilibrium.

    The long winters could be tied in to the wall and magic supressing the walkers, which is slowly wearing down, allowing the walkers to roam and other magic to rise.

    So much magical energy may have gone into the wall there might have been little left for ANY magic.
     
  13. 137th Gebirg

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    Very possible. The cause-and-effect may be reversed. The dragons may be just another part of this "balancing force" instead of its cause. Maybe this "R'hllor" is simply a god's name given by humans to a more metaphysical thing that nobody can fully comprehend. Everyone has knowledge of the different pieces of the puzzle but nobody has been able to put together a complete picture. Very possible indeed.
     
  14. Ayelbourne

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    Just a heads up for tonight's episode:

    Expect the worst thing ever. There are legit leaks on Reddit confirming some seriously fucked up shit concerning Stannis.
     
  15. sidious618

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    I saw that. A TERRIBLE storytelling decision if it turns out to be true.
     
  16. Roshi

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    link please?
     
  17. Klaus

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    I don't want to know what it is ahead of time, but it's worth noting at this point we don't know whose decision a lot of stuff will be, GRRM's or showrunners... unless GRRM says something we'll have to wait for WoW.
     
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    Jesus Christ. That sounds awful.
     
  20. Klaus

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    ...without reading it, what would be the expected level of confidence with this kind of source?
     

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