A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Out Of My Vulcan Mind, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. JD

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    I love world building in sci-fi and fantasy, so it sounds like this will be right up my alley. Does it cover the events of the books themselves, or just the history leading up to the books?
     
  2. CaptainCanada

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    It basically halts at the beginning of Robert's Rebellion. The fiction conceit is that the maester writing it began his work after Robert's coronation, and he didn't finish it until about where the books are now, with Tommen on the throne.

    If you read the "Dunk & Egg" novellas, the book contains a mixture of spoilers and dancing around certain events.
     
  3. Brendan Moody

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    The fictional dedication to Tommen, where you can see that his name has been hastily written over Joffrey's, is a nice little touch of black humor. Yandel was lucky, really, considering what Joffrey did with the copy of Lives of Four Kings Tyrion gave him...
     
  4. Bisz

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    Cool. I read rumours to this effect but its good to know that it's confirmed (one way or the other). Thanks for posting.
     
  5. Kosh Naranek

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    I have really enjoyed the world book thus far.

    Correct me if I am wrong but we had no idea who Aegon V married before the world book did we?
     
  6. CaptainCanada

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    That's correct. The Worldbook is the first indicator of the existence of Betha, as well as several other Targaryen queens (Alyssa Velaryon, Daenaera Velaryon, Larra Rogare, Dyanna Dayne, Shaera Targaryen).
     
  7. Captaindemotion

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    So, I'm in a bar in Castle Street Belfast with some friends last night, when someone comes in and says 'Them two boys from Game of Thrones are out there.'

    'Who?' I ask.

    'Jon Snow and some other one.'

    So out I run and sure enough Kit Harrington and Alfie Allen are there, waiting for a taxi. Both were very friendly but Alfie refused to have his photo taken, as apparently he just doesn't do it. Which I think is a bit dick-ish but there you go. Maybe he's keeping in character. I still told him his performance was great at the minute cos that's the kinda guy I am. Kit did pose for a couple of pics though. though. My female friends on Facebook are massively jealous.
     
  8. Venardhi

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    If a few dozen people asked me for a photo every day I'd probably start telling them no too, especially when most of them are just facebook bragging photos and not something the person will actually appreciate next week once the likes and comments stop.
     
  9. Captaindemotion

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    Maybe so, I suppose you never know till you've been in that situation, though a friend of mine met Conleth Hill at Belfast airport a few months ago and he had no difficulty with having his pic taken. He was perfectly civil and polite but it left me with a more favourable impression of Harrington than him.
     
  10. Locutus of Bored

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    Season 5 Trailer:

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  11. Emh

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    Ah, I've been waiting for the for the official release (as oppose to the fan recording that leaked earlier). I love the use of David Bowie's "Heroes."

    Lots of great snippets of everything and almost everyone. We hear (but don't see) Jonathan Pryce and that was worth the price of admission right there, although I do wish we had a glimpse of Alexander Siddig (the recent photos included him and Pryce, but I want footage!). It's especially cool to see the doors of The House of Black and White.
     
  12. 137th Gebirg

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    Interesting... It looks as if Varys might possibly be going with Tyrion all the way to where Danny is in Meereen. I suppose that could work, considering we don't see him hardly at all in the final two books after he helps Tyrion escape. And they appear to be completely removing the Young Griff/Aegon subplot from the show version. It's almost like they specifically brought attention to that point by mentioning "her, not him". I wonder if this means that the whole Griff subplot in the books has been a red herring/dead end all along, and Aegon's army will probably get smashed in the first pages of TWoW. I'm wondering if some, if not all, of Danny's potential suitors will likely be written out of this version too.

    It also looks like we might be getting a glimpse of the "Brazen Beasts" here, with the brass masks, although they all look quite similar and decidedly human and not unique animal faces. Probably easier to mass-produce on a budget this way.

    Nice to see Bronn is still being involved and didn't go off permanently with Lollies. Should be interesting to see how this plays out with him and Jaime down in Dorne.

    REALLY looking forward to seeing Alexander Siddig, although I don't recall seeing him in this trailer.
     
  13. Captaindemotion

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    ^ I didn't notice him in it either but he was in the batch of stills released around the same time.
     
  14. CaptainCanada

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    Behold, the original pitch for the book series.

    GRRM knows what the people want: Starkcest, and lots of it.
     
  15. Kosh Naranek

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    Yeah - I read that and thought "ew - no!" I pray to the old gods that it does not pan out that way.
     
  16. Kelthaz

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    So it looks like we may be getting 10 seasons now. Seven didn't seem like enough to me, so this is good news. Not to mention the bonus of giving Martin a second chance to finish the books first.
     
  17. Robert Maxwell

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    They don't need Martin to finish the books--they'll work out their own ending, based on the direction they want to go and informed by Martin's plans that he's shared with them.

    It doesn't sound like they are going to be forced to make it 10. Naturally, the guy responsible for making HBO as profitable as possible doesn't want the money train to stop. Maybe we'll get 8 seasons instead, I just don't see 10 as realistic unless we get tons of worthless padding. There's also the matter of signing all the needed actors for another 3 years.
     
  18. Foxhot

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    Or a GOT clip show episode or two. God forbid.:cool:
     
  19. Kelthaz

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    I never said that they needed Martin to finish the books. I'm talking about a bonus to myself. I want Martin to finish the books first.

    No, not forced to, but Game of Thrones wouldn't be the first show to last 10 years or more. Maybe they'd love to work on it for three more years.
     
  20. Locutus of Bored

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