A New Modern Trek Animated Series

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Opus, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. cbp44189

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    Sorry, didn't see it. I just saw the article today, and had to post. Day late dollar short I guess.
     
  4. Temis the Vorta

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    A superhero show can be shoehorned into the CW formula: main character is teenage female, has no adult supervision, has a power she can brood over angstily, will be in an a love triangle with two hot angsty guys, and faces female supervillain foes who are eternally scheming superbitches who have no motivation other than being superbitches, and probably jealous about the main character's two hot boyfriends.

    Now envision Star Trek, with the CW formula applied. :rommie: I often say any Star Trek is better than no Star Trek, but even I would draw the line at that.
     
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    we saw spock escaping the explosion on screen....

    anyways a destroyed romulan empire and STO's klingon invasion of the romulan remnants fits in imo with the future we saw in "All Good Things...", and its not like romulans are extinct, just that their homeworld is gone - romulans themselves survive on their colonies and probably in factions just like the french in wwii irl - makes a good universe for story telling methinks espiecially in episodic format, klingons the baddies again, romulan intrigue between remnant factions
     
  6. Temis the Vorta

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    I'll have to rewatch the movie, I don't even remember that part.
     
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    it was in the mindmeld dream sequence as i recall, but i could be mistaken since i havnt seen the movie in months but if i remember right it was very very brief
     
  8. Kegg

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    Hmmm.

    You know what?

    I think it's time we saw a TV adaption of Paula Smith's classic A Trekkie's Tale.
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

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    There's no reason to bring Romulus back - it's not an important locale. Star Trek has managed for four decades with showing it only a couple of times. Vulcan has been somewhat more frequent, but not much.
     
  10. ChristopherPike

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    Since Romulus still exists in this universe, the one Star Trek apparently means to stay in for the foreseeable future - I do strongly think that unimportance ought to change.

    Top of my list for fleshing out aliens from TOS, would come down to either the Andorians or the Romulans.

    I can't say Andorians aren't more wide open for development, with just a few elements Enterprise established to blend in. But more than that, I'm keen for somebody to take the Romulans and do for them, what TNG & DS9 did for the Klingons, in everything since "Sins of the Father". Maybe even try to unseat the foul smelling barbarians as the Number #1 Star Trek villains.

    It'll be a shame if they don't go that route, given a) the popular view built up since the late 80's of Klingons being more or less on our side, Federation allies off & on but mostly honourable and b) the Romulans having far less established about them.

    Nero's actions - everything onwards from destroying the U.S.S. Kelvin, to returning and causing the Vulcan disaster - that would seem to be a perfect storm the Romulans wouldn't be able to resist taking advantage of. Fingers pointing at them after the first event in 2233, an attack they had nothing to do with, would likely have been enough to bring back out of hiding in a big way.

    Blanks that could be filled in, if Star Trek had more than a couple of hours to play with...
     
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    I'd rather they go find some new aliens to play with. The thing about animation is that they can create quite a remarkable range of creatures other than humanoid that are just as capable of interacting dramatically with the protagonists as are any "humanoid" CG puppets.

    Cross Trek with Farscape and it starts to be interesting again...at least visually.
     
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    Not exactly animated series-only territory. A live-action series could cover this same topic in-depth.
    I think deciding on who the audience is for a animated TV series is a huge hurdle before plot lines can realistically be considered.

    I agree. TAS allowed for better aliens but the Xindi War in ENT showed how expensive photorealistic CGI characters (Xindi Aquatics & Xindi-Insectoids) cost and an animated series done like The Clone Wars would be a lot cheaper.
     
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    Brilliant, really....
     
  14. Temis the Vorta

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    The Rommies are perennially at the top of my list for development. They're still largely cyphers and Trek XI did nothing to change that. Nero & the gang could have been any kind of alien. TOS and TNG depicted them somewhat inconsistently. Kurtzman & Orci have the chance to make up Trek's mind about the Rommies and go for it.

    I'm not quite as keen on the Andorians, but an animated series should mix in the new and the old. Since a major proportion of the audience is going to be kids, the old stuff will be new to them anyway. Bring back the Doomsday Machine and freak the kids out! :D
    I always think of what DS9 did with the Cardassians as the template for how to develop villains. The Klingons are controversial - was it a good thing or a bad thing to turn them into jovial space pirates, whose blather about "honor" is often just hypocrisy? But the Cardies manage to be diverse - Garak, Dukat and Damar are all distinct individuals - without being diffuse, so that we still have sense of what binds them together as a species
     
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    I was watching Transformers Prime by the same producers (The ones that want a Trek show -Orsi and Kurtzman) and noticed that a lot of the mythological elements from Generation One Transformers were brought into the new show.

    I hope to see more with the new Starfleet as it would be post Nemesis. I hope they go forward instead of backward. I also hope it isn't totally made for children. If it's the only Star Trek show on the air, I am hoping it would be something adults will watch too.

    I'd like to see the writers of the episodes and Trek literature become involved in this project if it has any substance. If it's only marketed for the ten year old crowd, I'll really be disappointed.
     
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    Meh, I would like the Ashes of Eden idea if it followed the book more.

    Also with the Return can Riker not be a douche in a film version.
     
  17. ChristopherPike

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    His character starts off well, during the opening Veridian attack - a diversion away from being with Spock at Kirk's graveside - where he loses somebody. Pulling this arm out of the rubble, with the rest of her disintergrated. But yes, the rest of the time he's basically pulling rank over Bashir, and chewing others out.

    What I do find great, is Picard being more like the TV character, than the action hero he was in the films. The first time he's in the book, it's on a mission with Beverly Crusher and some Special Forces-type from Starfleet, to a Starbase that's been assimilated. He's vulnerable and it's a bit reminiscent of "Chain of Command". There using his Locutus alter-ego to get in and out with intelligence on them.

    The ending is pretty contrived, in expectation of a follow-up. Borg tech running through Kirk's system, being diagnosed irreversible, basically leads to another sacrifice like Data's in Nemesis and that's a bit pointless given the whole point of him being resurrected. Having struggled through Avenger and Kirk's fate resolved there so implausably it can only be referred to and described matter-of-factly by the character - I feel if this were being adapted for the screen, they would just fix him and leave no part of The Return left dangling. He helps destroy the Borg central node. Both Picard & Kirk get back to the Enterprise and the other demands the nanites be removed, expecting to die but some residule bio energy from Chal changes the rules or whatever.
     
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    I must be the only one who missed those details.:lol: