A little help, please

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by RodrigoBrowncoat, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. teacake

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    You know I said the same about broccoli once.
     
  2. Timewalker

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    Are we talking about the vegetable or Reg Barclay? ;)

    Broccoli is wonderful when properly prepared, and is my favorite vegetable. Of course some folks don't like it, but that means there's more for me!
     
  3. teacake

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    We're talking about Albert R. Broccoli whose name fascinated me throughout my teen years at the end of James Bond movies. Why was his last name Broccoli? What had it been like in school being named Broccoli? Did he himself eat broccoli?
     
  4. Timewalker

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    I've never managed to sit all the way through any James Bond movie, so I have no idea what character you're referring to.
     
  5. teacake

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    He's the producer, he produced like a gazillion of the things. His name appears in the credits and is probably the main thing I remember about any of the movies.
     
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    Surely you jest?
     
  7. AdmiralScreed

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    I'd suggest going from the beginning. Take the good with the bad. I just finished the show myself. Looking back on it all, a lot of the episodes I was critical of in the earlier seasons are much better than I gave them credit for originally. I was extremely harsh on that first season, but I think that has a lot to do with me jumping into VOY immediately after finishing DS9 (there were other reasons too....). It took awhile for me to adapt to the episodic style of VOY, but once I became used to the format I mostly enjoyed it. I personally thought the last two seasons were the strongest (although that view isn't held by many other fans), but there's still plenty to enjoy in the earlier seasons. So, once again, I'd recommend you watch all of it and formulate your own opinions. You might find you really like certain episodes that aren't so popular with the mainstream crowd.
     
  8. teacake

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    But who is the mainstream crowd?

    When I talk to Trek fans out in.. the street.. (okay, at cons and bookstores) I am always gobsmacked at how they love all these characters and episodes that are held in very dim view around here. I guess they haven't been slow poisoned by years of internet shrieking.
     
  9. AdmiralScreed

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    Well that just reinforces what I said. We fans will never agree, which is why the creator of this thread should watch them all and decide for himself what he likes. :)

    I loved Barge of the Dead, although I don't think that episode would make many other fan's top 10 lists...
     
  10. lurok

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    Didn't particularly like Barge/B'Elanna or Seven first time VOY on...now love both of them. Guess tastes change, mature :)
     
  11. M.A.C.O.

    M.A.C.O. Commodore Commodore

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    I made a thread and a list of episodes just for people like you. The thread is here http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=190942

    For Voyager the list of episode I found necessary, didn't suck completely or I found entertaining are as follows.

    Voyager 1995-2001

    Season 1

    1-2. Caretaker 1-2
    3. Parallax
    5. Phage
    9. Emanations
    10. Prime Factors
    11. State of Flux
    13. Cathexis
    14. Faces
    15. Jetrel
    16. Learning Curve

    Season 2

    2. Initiations
    3. Projections
    7. Parturition
    8. Persistence of Vision
    10. Cold Fire
    11. Maneuvers
    14. Alliances
    15. Meld
    17. Dreadnought
    19. Lifesigns
    20. Investigations
    21. Deadlock
    23. Thaw
    24. Tuvix
    26. Basic Part 1

    Season 3

    1. Basics Part 2
    4. The Swarm
    8-9. Futures End I-II
    13. Fair Trade
    14. Alter Ego
    16. Blood Fever
    17. Unity
    19. Rise
    21. Before and After
    26. Scorpion Part 1

    Season 4

    1. Scorpion Part 2
    2. The Gift
    3. Day of Honor
    5. Revulsion
    6. The Raven
    7. Scientific Method
    8-9. Year of Hell Part I-II
    14. Message in a Bottle
    15. Hunters
    16. Prey
    18-19. The Killing Game Part I-II
    23. Living Witness
    25. The One
    26.Hope and Fear

    Season 5

    1. Night
    2. Drone
    3. Extreme Risk
    6. Timeless
    7. Infinite Regress
    8. Nothing Human
    9. Thirty Days
    11. Latent Image
    12. Bride of Chaotica
    15-16. Dark Frontier Part I-II
    24. Relativity
    26. Equinox Part I

    Season 6

    1. Equinox part 2
    2. Survival Instinct
    4. Tinker Tailor Doctor Spy
    7. Dragon's Teeth
    10. Pathfinder
    16. Collective
    19. Child's Play
    23. Fury *Optional* If you are a Kes fan.
    24. Life Line
    26. Unimatrix Zero Part 1

    Season 7

    1. Unimatrix Zero Part 2
    2. Imperfection
    3. Drive
    4. Repression
    6. Inside Man
    7. Body and Soul
    9-10. Flesh and Blood
    12. Lineage
    14. Prophecy
    15. The Void
    16-17. Work Force I-II *optional*
    18. Human Error
    20. Author Author *optional but funny and amusing*
    23. Homestead
    25-26. Endgame I-II
     
  12. teacake

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    AllStarEnterprise your avatar is super cute.
     
  13. Captain Kathryn

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    I agree with most of AllStarEntprise's episode list.

    Bride of Chaotica never did it for me though.

    I would add:

    -The 37s (S2)
    -False Profits (S3)
    -Innocence (S2)
    -Worst Case Scenario (S3)
    -Mortal Coil (S4)
    -The Q and the Grey (S3)
    -Q2 (S7)

    I'm a Q fan~

    The J/C in me wants to recommend Coda and Resolutions even though they aren't the best episodes. :D
     
  14. M.A.C.O.

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    Full size image for you Teacake and thanks for the compliment.
     
  15. teacake

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    Thanks! Where is it from, did you do it yourself?

    And lurok yes tastes change, mine get broader in most everything. Practically everything I disliked on first runs of Trek I like just fine now (Vic Fontaine I'm looking at you).
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    I gained an appreciation for Vic after seeing the Time Tunnel and realizing that even though he was making money as an actor, Bobby actually took the time to step aside and learn how to act at some point in the next 30 years.

    (Fry made that joke about Walter Koenig.)

    Bill Mumy and Bobby Darren in the same episode???!!!

    "Hey? If you had to chose, would you rather be lost in space or lost in time?"

    That would have been a fantastic debate between the two of them,

    :)

    What do you mean "What's The Time Tunnel?"?

    "I'm drinking with children."
     
  17. teacake

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    You made me search my gmail.

    On September 8th last year a friend of mine mentioned the Time Tunnel in a trollish post on some other forum and then he had to explain it and the Vic connection to me because I was too undeducated to get it. So that factlet is almost in my brain.
     
  18. Lance

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    I think I've only ever seen three episodes of The Time Tunnel. And two of those were identical to the third one.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    I saw all 30 recently and they were awful.

    (Time Tunnel & Lost in Space were Both produced and conceived by Irwin Allen. They're almost like the same show... Oh and Land of the Giants ditto. :) )

    The unintentionally most hilarious bit was in the very last episode, they have the same bat time, same bat channel shite:NEXT WEEK ON TIME TUNNEL... And they give a preview to the first episode ever, like the series is caught in a huge frakking temporal loop.

    Time Tunnel makes VoyagerS look like it was produced by Stephen Bocho.
     
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  20. teacake

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    One of my earliest tv memories is of Land of the Giants, someone was killed by a GIANT SPIDER after being caught in its GIANT WEB. There was a lot of screaming.