A Hater Revisits nuWho

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Bones2, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. davejames

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    Same here. It was just so weird and wacky and fun, and I loved all the bizarre names that were thrown around. :D

    But for me the signature moment was the Doctor fixing Rose's cellphone to allow her to call home. That little scene really captured the immense magic and wonder behind the character, and is something I've always wanted to see more of.

    As much as I love the original series, too often I have to struggle to see any real magic there (in fact sometimes it feels positively glum). Clearly RTD wanted to emphasize the magic and fun a lot more in the new show, and I'm glad he did.
     
  2. The Castellan

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    Yea, but still...I passionately hate anyone who's all for cover stories and secrecy, be it real or fictional.

    Least the events of the Master, who I never liked as a character since Traken, were essentually undone. Wish the Master would stay dead....same with Davros.
     
  3. Bones2

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    Yeah, but if all the classic enemies start staying dead, we end up with rubbish like the Slitheen.

    Anyway, I've just realised that after I go home from uni for Christmas, I probably won't get through many episodes, so I'll try and do as many reviews as I can over the next week.
     
  4. Davros

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    Even though I use the name Davros here and he is one of the great all time Sci Fi bad guys. I think he should have stayed dead at the end of Genesis Of The Daleks. However he was great at the end of last season.
     
  5. Emh

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    I agree on the points about Davros, but not on The Master. He's been wonderful through and through, but I just wish JNT allowed Ainley perform the way he wanted to. For instance, in THe Planet of Fire, Ainley gave a darker performance, but JNT kept telling him to ham it up.
     
  6. Captain Pike

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    JNT's heart was always in the right place, and I hate to speak ill of the dead, but imo the guy often had serious judgement shortcommings and lack of good taste.
     
  7. Emh

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    For the most part, I agree, but I really wish he allowed Ainley to play The Master the way he wanted to.
     
  8. The

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    ...and let Colin wear what he wanted...
     
  9. Bones2

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    The Unquiet Dead (****)

    Yeah, this is more like it. So much in this episode felt right. On the other hand, it's trickier to find a lot to say about a good episode, so this review won't be nearly as long as the End of the World review.

    So, the teaser sets the tone perfectly. And then we come to the Tardis which the Doctor still can't drive. How does 1860 sound? Well, like the setting we saw in the preview last week. And then we get the directions to the wardrobe in the Tardis. Now, I recall the episode just after the fifth Doctor regeneration, and I'm sure he didn't have to go past any bins, but on the other hand, it once looked alarmingly like a swimming pool with offices, so I suppose I can handle bins.

    Anyway, we get to see Dickens giving a reading of A Christmas Carol, and I was amused at the audience gasps when he said that Scrooge saw Jacob Marley's face on the doorknocker. I mean, how simple are they? Would they start screaming if you read out the script of Jaws to them? I'm reminded of hearing about one of the first films ever, in which a train pulls into a station and then leaves. People would run from the theatre screaming, because they thought the train was going to come through the screen and run them over.

    And then more or less everything else in the story makes sense and develops naturally. No silly propellers on the walkway, as I'll call false manufactured peril from now on. The only thing that seemed unrealistically convenient was that the undertaker guy had chloroform straight to hand to use on Rose, but that's fairly forgivable.

    The Ninth Doctor himself was likeable too. There was a eye roll early on when he said Rose looked beautiful for a human (trying to disguise his feelings perhaps, but this is an alien who seems to spend all his hundreds of years with humans). I also thought he was back to his unpleasant first episode form when he told Dickens to shut up, but then a scene or two later he apologised. Wow. It seems Gatiss understands that you have to make the character likeable; RTD seems to think everyone should automatically love him just because he's the Doctor.

    There's also a lot of humour here, almost all of which works, compared to the disgraceful comedy in Rose. This is how it should be done.

    The only thing I didn't like was where the Doctor tells Rose how glad he is that he met her. He's had dozens of human companions over the years, and he's known her for about 5 minutes. Sadly, I know this won't be the last we get of this quasi-love story, where we're meant to buy into this deep and involving relationship.

    But that's just a minor quibble here. In the end, this episode may not be the biggest or most memorable, but it's very fun and completely watchable. If the show keeps on like this, it could well be worth it after all.




    Extraordinary screwdriver:
    1. Stops plastic arm from receiving signal.

    2. Disengages computerised lock on door.
    3. Seems to be the only tool you need while fixing a time machine.
     
  10. The

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    You're going to loathe the next two episodes... :lol:
     
  11. Bacl

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    Skip the next two.

    Although you might appreciate a scene in which the Doctor essentially just bullshits that his sonic screwdriver can do stuff it can't, and then gets called on it.
     
  12. The Castellan

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    Well, he DID try to have a fling with a chick who was made of wood in the previous story. :D And Rose DID look quite striking in that Victorian outfit. :bolian:

    Though they got the Doc's age wrong, he's way more than 900. In the Trial of a Timelord season, the Doc mentioned he was 900, at least twice. No way can he still be exactly 900, 3 regenerations later. I think he might have been lying about his age, so he would not appear to be old in front of Rose. ;)

    I do wonder what the humanised clone of the Doctor and Rose are doing now....I HIGHLY doubt that either of them would settle for a normal human life....as in job, bills, mortgage, company picknicks, and so on. Either they were able to make some sort of space/time device, or they are with Torchwood or Unit of that Universe.
     
  13. ITL

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    After all, he does have the same knowledge as The Doctor...he's just more physically vulnerable.
     
  14. Bob The Skutter

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    Well Rose was supposed to be working at Pete's world's Torchwood, wasn't she?

    Not on topic really, but the name ITElf makes me think of you as some put upon IT tech who just appears to fix the computers.
     
  15. ITL

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    ^ Yep, that's the idea! (Well, partially. The main reason is the "L" "Elf" thing...) Not that I've worked with computers for a few years, though..
     
  16. wamdue

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    well considering the kind of Big Brother data base Santa must have, he is going to need some tech support to keep it safe.

    Just think about it, Santas database would have to have, the kids name, age, address, gender, school reports (& other documents to help him decide if he has been naughty of nice) a history of toys the kids have had in the past, and there current likes & dislikes.

    not to mention the elves needed to make games consoles, computers & the software for them, unless he just out sources that to Sony?
     
  17. Bones2

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    Too late :(

    Aliens of London(*½)

    So, we open with clips from Rose. Which makes me feel that that 1.5 out of 5 was a bit on the generous side for that episode. Also, does the audience really need a recap? Well, we've got it.

    Anyway, the Tardis lands back in its favourite spot in London, and Rose rushes off to tell her mum about how she can say she's been in at least 1 good 45 minutes of television. Meanwhile, the Doctor notices a conveniently placed missing person poster, which looks very new considering it turns out Rose has been "missing" for a year. Either that, or they haven't thought to leaflet anywhere outside of a 5 minutes radius of her flat. But yeah, anyway, the Doctor's managed to get things wrong by a year. Meaning he can pinpoint the exact point in 5 billion years to be present to see the world end, but can't arrive within 12 hours of where he was a couple of trips ago. Here's an example of the Tardis acting exactly as the plot requires, especially as a big spaceship is about to crash into the middle of London.

    And crash it does, giving us a great shot of the ship going through Big Ben (or, more precisely, St. Stephen's Tower), which was great for the trailers, and the best thing in the episode.

    We then see the BBC News, which is of course a shoddy attempt to look like the real thing, even down to Andrew Marr, who probably bit their hand off when offered the chance to appear in this. So, we find out a body has been recovered. And apparently a state of national emergency has been declared. Err, national? I'd have thought a BBC Wales production would have avoided being so London-centric. Though come to think of it...emergency? Meh, whatever.

    Then the channel gets changed by a child, and we see that Blue Peter is showing us how to build a cake that looks like the spaceship. Which is a nice gag and everything, but they must have rustled that up pretty damn quick, because we get the impression that it only crashed about half an hour ago. Quicky-back plastic.

    And then we get some flatulence. And if you find that funny, you won't have any ribs left by the time this episode finishes. Of course, being older than 6, I find it distasteful and not in the least bit funny. But it's always good to see Annette Badland pop up. I think the woman's on a mission to guest star in every single BBC show ever.

    And then the Doctor gives Rose a Tardis key. Hey, it's not as if she's an idiot you've only known for a few days; giving her keys to the most sophisticated machine any human's ever seen will be fine. He then leaves, but Mickey, also being an idiot, tries to run into the Tardis (which if there would have hurt) as it dematerialises and he runs into the metal sheeting and falls down. I can't tell any more what's meant to be funny, because nothing really is.

    We then get more lame Tardis controls. This time a hammer. Makes me appreciate that bloody screwdriver. Talking of the screwdriver, like a bad penny, here it is next, unlocking a conventionally locked door this time. Why a group of soldiers would lock the room they're in isn't explained, but by now I suspect the screwdriver must be contractually obliged to appear. Really though, would the scene have lacked anything if the Doctor had just walked in and had the guns pointed at him?

    And then, because soldiers are notoriously sheep-like, they instantly follow him when he shouts "Defense Pattern Delta!". Defense Pattern Delta is well known as meaning "run down the corridor pointing your guns ahead" it seems. Though surely that's an offense. Nevertheless, being such an obvious military expert and instant commander of men, they obey when the Doctor then tells them to spread out and tell the perimeter it's a lockdown. Really, why bother even having psychic paper?

    And oh no, tension! There's an alien in the creepy dark mortuary. Oh hang on, it's a pigman. Anyway, it gets shot after charging at a group of soldiers. The Doctor criticises their action in shooting, insisting the pigman was just scared. I don't know about you, but I don't tend to run towards things I'm scared of.

    We then get a scene of lots of flatulence while a general (and that MP woman who probably won't ever matter) watches. Then it turns out the fat farters are aliens, as is shown when they unzip their heads. But here's a thing: at one point the lights are on in the room, then the camera changes and they're suddenly off, so the forehead light is more noticeable. It doesn't make any sense, and is obviously just to make the forehead light more effective. Very lazy.

    Anyway, turns out the pig alien was a decoy pilot for the ship, and actually a real pig augmented mentally. Or something.

    So we get more on the fallout of Rose being missing for a year. Poor Mickey was left all alone, questioned many times by the police, and suspected by everyone around of having murdered her or being responsible somehow. The Doctor comes back and reverts to some childish unlikeability when confronted by Mickey, presumably being played for laughs. Especially unpleasant when you consider it's the Doctor's fault Mickey was accused because he ended up a year late. Jackie calls the hotline to tell the authorities about the Doctor, and the Doctor himself takes the opportunity to be rude to Mickey because he wouldn't understand how a time machine works, all while he fiddles with the Tardis using only the screwdriver.

    Anyway, turns out the Doctor "patched in the radar [and] linked it back 12 hours so it followed the flight of that spaceship". Leaving aside whether that makes any kind of sense, it seemed the screwdriver was all he needed for the meddling. Yet another silly thing for the screwdriver list you may think, until you consider that you'd think the Tardis controls should do that themselves. Or maybe he didn't have the right type of hammer.

    We then get back to the aliens, and after more flatulence (:rolleyes:), we see one of them has changed into the general, and they chuck the previous skin (that of the PM) in the cupboard with the MP woman. Pretty horrific you'd think, but the skin couldn't look more like a pink rubber cap with a cheap wig attached if they'd left the price tag on.

    Then we see UNIT's back and involved. I say involved; they get mentioned and we see some brief dashing about, so maybe it's just a little fanwank for all the classic series fans. Still, nice to see. No Brigadier though :(. But then, we wouldn't want our memories of the good old days ruined with him appearing in this rubbish. It'd be like when the (then) three remaining Beatles did Free as a Bird.

    Then the Doctor, Rose, and Mickey step out of the Tardis to see that the army's come for the Doctor (and obviously they send lots of trucks and cars, because they're the army). Quite a lot for an escort, but it's nice to give the heavily armoured vehicles a run round the block when the opportunity presents itself. Incidentally, though they even have dogs, Mickey manages to run and hide with ease. You'll notice I called it an escort, because even though the voice coming out of the helicopter shouts that they're under arrest, when Rose calls it as such, the Doctor says it isn't - it's an escort to Downing Street. Usually I'd be inclined to believe the ones making the arrest/escort, but this being an RTD story, the Doctor is, of course, automatically in the right.

    A copper then talks to Jackie about the Doctor, but he's got stomach noises, so obviously he's not a propper copper. Meanwhile, at 10 Downing Street, the Doctor goes in for a briefing, but Rose is left outside because you don't really want an idiot hanging around (unless you are the Ninth Doctor of course).
    So she goes off with Harriet Jones and they find the dead PM and get confronted by Badland. While this goes on, the policeman with Jackie starts to unzip his head, but for some reason the lights don't turn themselves off. Weird, huh.

    And then we get the single worst line I can recall in the whole of Doctor Who:
    Give. Me. Strength.

    And then all the Slitheen start peeling out of their dead people suits, some lights stay on, some flicker, and some go off. Some people seem to nearly die, including the Doctor, but he's obviously going to be ok because 1. he's the Doctor and 2. he's fine in the teaser for next week that immediately follows.

    At least they've not given the second part much to live up to.


    Now, I've given this episode 1.5/5, which despite being such a low score, might still seem kind for this episode. Well, despite being ruddy awful, it's still sort of entertaining, if only to spot the one stupid thing after another. It's not what I'd call fun, but it's not boring at least. Still, who knows, maybe the second part will salvage the whole thing...




    Extraordinary screwdriver:
    1. Stops plastic arm from receiving signal.
    2. Disengages computerised lock on door.
    3. Seems to be the only tool you need while fixing a time machine.
    4. Even opens conventional doors.
    5. Helps "patch in the radar [and] link it back 12 hours so it can follow the flight of that spaceship". You mean your screwdriver can't?
     
  18. Bacl

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    Did I miss you explaining why you don't like the sonic screwdriver? Wasn't that a staple of the old series as well?
     
  19. FalTorPan

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    The sonic screwdriver was a favorite tool of the Doctor's for much of the original series' run, but in the original series, the sonic screwdriver was merely a multi-functional tool, and not an "omni-functional" tool." :)
     
  20. Bones2

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    This. Funny and true.