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Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Robert Simmons, May 9, 2014.

  1. Robert Simmons

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    You're welcome. The Stage 9 model I am building is a builder's proof and is not meant to be painted or lit. It is only for finding exact measurements and templates for blueprinting. After I am finished with the general build information then I will begin to include the information on detailing the sets and paint colors, fabrics, etc. but if you want to color yours the. Take a easy route and build it in colored card stock so any paint won't weaken or warp whatever you are building it out of. LEDs would be the smart route like you said for the cool temp nature they have.
     
  2. spockboy

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    Fascinating.
    That's why I thought that Donny's CG would be ideal if printed up in the shapes and sizes of your cuts, no need for colored card stock, but we've already discussed that;)
    In theory, one could take elements of screen grabs from the actual show and taylor them to fit your (for lack of a better term) cutouts creating an exact replica in color and tone, then with LED's to finish, it could look quite amazing.
    Like being on set!
    So glad you are working on this.
    Thanks again. :)
     
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  3. Robert Simmons

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    Progress of tonight. Still have to add the overhead for the office door, finish the dresser, screen frame, and the beams on the walls.

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  4. Potemkin_Prod

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    Beautiful work!!!
     
  5. Robert Simmons

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    Thank you Randy!
     
  6. FalTorPan

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    I finally checked out this thread. (With the title "9 PDF," it looked like spam.)

    Wow! Awesome stuff! :)
     
  7. spockboy

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    Looks fantastic!
    It's fun seeing rooms we know so well from different angles like that.

    Thanks. :)
     
  8. Robert Simmons

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    Thanks guys. I called the project 9 PDF cause I wanted it short, easy to remember, and descriptive of what the end product will be. Didn't consider that the name might be mistaken for spam.
     
  9. Robert Simmons

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    About a week behind in the update. The past 2 weeks is where I shifted into super slow gear to be super careful in checking all TOS stills to build the arches. Used three different methods against stills to lock in the arch templates. Just to play it safe I did individual studies on all 4 beams in case there was any variation in the TOS stills between them. Put the results on onion skin and lined all 4 up on a light board and all 4 matched exactly and needed only one template for all of them. About to replace the back walls for more precise cut panels for wilding with the original shelves built as seen in Mudd's women. Will also build the wall decorations. Then the divider screen. Noticed when building the overhead for the office door against stills the wall right of the door will have to be narrowed. This tells me as built in that location differs from the blue prints.

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  10. Mytran

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    Love it how you've included the drinks dispenser from Mirror Mirror. :)
     
  11. Robert Simmons

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    Thank you. It was seen in a number of episodes but only used in that one.

    Concerning your comment on the Mirror Universe. When I began building the bridge in July 2013 I made a decision to model all the Mirror elements for 9 PDF so it would cover all the bases for the building plans for the sets. In the early days of the project when you and I were messaging I don't remember if I mentioned this back then to you. By doing so it also covers "The Ultimate Computer" with the high back on Commodore Wesley's Captain's Chair. So both sets of decorations and drawings and photos for the prime universe and the mirror universe will be included in 9 PDF. Just a FYI a year and a half late even though the high back on the captain's chair gave it away in the photos then.
     
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    Back wall, Beams, and early first season shelves. Since the shelves were originally built and on the plans, I decided to do them anyway since they were seen in a few episodes and the goal is "as built." Since we saw little of them thought I would show some extra shots from different angles before I cover them up with the later wall furnishings. I see now why they covered these things up. Back wall is not solid and fully seated due to keeping it loose for wilding. Will build a wood frame and vertical supports so it will seat tightly flushed.


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  13. spockboy

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    looks great! :)
    Keep up the good work.
     
  14. Mytran

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    Regarding those "shelves", I always thought they were supposed to be windows, albeit not very well thought out or located ones. In the 2 or 3 episodes in which they appear there's what looks like a black background behind them, which could be interpreted as "the galactic void" beyond or something.

    Still, I'm glad they got covered up. Your findings about the structural weaknesses of having them present is very interesting, I'd not considered that before.
     
  15. Robert Simmons

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    The structural weakness is not due to the windows and I think is from using cardboard and tape to build this. Didn't mean to imply the shelves were the cause. I was referring to how butt ugly I think they are.
     
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    Two links that I hope are of help to your incredible project

    An album of photos of the original series chair with a back extension. They were photographed with a card measuring 6" x 12"
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157649002160687/

    The back extensions varied a bit due to be made by hand at the studio. The fabric pattern in the photos was used for chairs in formal settings and crew quarters.

    I downloaded the photos from a site that went down about 4 years ago - I can't find the photographer's name to credit him...


    Also the floor size measurements for stage 9 (now called stage 31) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14924642473/sizes/o/
     
  17. Robert Simmons

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    Thank you. This is very helpful.:cool:
     
  18. Robert Simmons

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    Redgeneral thank you for taking care to point out you wish to credit the original photographer. That commands my respect.

    Concerning the Burke chair photos. The back I assume is a TOS original while the chair is not used in TOS but the same model? Being that these are digital photos of good digital quality I can conclude these pics were taken recently. ( in the past 10 years )

    Concerning the Stage 9 / 31 dimension drawings. Would Stage 32 possibly the old Desilu / Paramount stage 8 where they did the planet side TOS sets? From the drawings it seems the Stage 9 / 31 seems to underwent some remodeling looking at the outside door placement.
     
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    Those photos are from Phil Broad's old site (Modelers' Reference Vault). The photographer is Ed Whitefire. The back is an original set piece.

    The site is long gone, but through the miracle of the Wayback Machine, here is the page on the Burke Chairs: Click Here.

    Check out the whole site in the archive. Phil performed a real service to humanity with his excellent SF references. Haven't heard from him in quite a while. Hope he's doing well...

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  20. Redgeneral

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    Thanks for pointing out the photographer and site - I've added the following description to each photo on the flickr album
    Photographed by Ed Whitefire and from Phil Broad's "Modelers' Reference Vault" website

    The chair back is original, but the chair is the same model as those on the show. The three triangles on the chair were added before it was painted blue.

    The chair back material was also used to cover beds and pillows in the quarters and sick bay.

    Pat Suwalski's webiste (http://pat.suwalski.net/film/st-stages/) says that stage 9 (tos enterprise) became 31 and stage 10 (tos planet exteriors) became 32