51% of Americans don't accept the Big Bang theory

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  1. Yanks

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    While I do not believe the Earth is 6000 years old, I also have a hard time beliving everything came from nothing in direct violation of all the laws of physics as we know them.
     
  2. RoJoHen

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    The other option is that it always existed (in some form or another), which is just as difficult for me to wrap my head around.
     
  3. Yanks

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    You post that in a thread demeaning Americans because they don't believe in the Big Bang? :lol:
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  4. Yanks

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    True.

    It's kind of like "that galaxy is 13.8 blah blah years old. We know that because that's how long it took the light to get here" with no regard to how the galaxy got there in the first place.
     
  5. Serveaux

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    The laws of physics do not obtain before the beginning of the Universe. ;)

    Everything is nothing, anyway.
     
  6. JanewayRulz!

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    Is it 13.8 billion years old? :vulcan:

    Is it dark matter or dark energy? :cardie:

    Is it everything from nothing, or everything from something? :confused:

    Hell, I can't figure out what the religion of the actor playing Obi-wan Kenobi has to do with Star Wars' signature line. :alienblush:

    So what makes me think I can answer a survey on major scientific theories. :rolleyes:

    Oh, I do know Star Wars was released in 1977.

    Does that count for something, anything? ;)
     
  7. Robert Comsol

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    Sir Alec Guiness felt all that talk about the Force was a lot of "mumbo-jumbo" and did not like these lines.

    From a theologian point of view and considering that "the Force" could have also been a placeholder for God, I'm sure he would have been more delighted to deliver these lines.

    What's interesting here, IMHO, is that he / George Lucas offered a solution to an astrophysical problem the vast majority of movie-goers didn't even know existed, yet (and I'm not aware George Lucas knew the problem, either).

    Bob
     
  8. Yanks

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    Exactly (slaps forehead :))

    I do know this, it takes every bit as much faith to believe in the Big Bang as it does to believe in an IntelligentDesigner.
     
  9. Stoo

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    No, that's bollocks. We have plenty of evidence for a big bang happening. The expansion of the universe, the cosmic microwave background.

    It's possible you're misunderstanding what the big bang theory describes. It's not "something from nothing". Rather, it describes the universe rapidly expanding from an initial state where all matter and energy was wrapped up in a tiny little space. It doesn't try to explain those initial conditions, just tell us how we got from there to here.
     
  10. YellowSubmarine

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    A simple yet unordered jumble of matter, practically amounting to nothing at the time, appearing out of nowhere. A complex intelligent being capable of designing universes appearing out of nowhere. Totally the same thing.
     
  11. Yanks

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    Michio Kaku himself says the Big Bang is mathimatically impossible. That's where "expansion" and all the other stuff they dream up comes from.

    Not opposed to the theory, but it is far from fact.

    If you believe everything came from on tiny little point, smaller than an atom then that's fine. I'm not there yet.

    I personally don't think they will ever figure anything out until they wrap their hands around dark matter & energy.
     
  12. Yanks

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    Exactly
     
  13. Stoo

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    The idea of all matter and energy in such a tiny space is indeed unimaginable. That's great! It's why science is exciting! When it tells us the universe is (or sometimes, was) weirder or more extreme than we ever thought.

    and well, if you're a believer, then it's your god's work in motion. More glory to him I guess.
     
  14. Robert Maxwell

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    PRAISE CTHULHU AND HIS GLORIOUS BIG BANG
     
  15. Yanks

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    Do I have to be a "believer" to question the BBT?

    I love science, watch all "the shows" and do my best to understand it all. We live in an age of change when it comes to science. It's exciting.
     
  16. Stoo

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    My apologies if I've jumped to conclusions. When people have difficulties accepting scientific theories, it's often for unscientific reasons.
     
  17. Yanks

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    No apologies required nor desired.

    It does baffle me that if you question anything considered "mainstream science" the religion thing always seems to creep in...
     
  18. scotthm

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    That seems to be what the simulation you exist in was configured to imply.

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  19. Crazy Eddie

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    Primarily because religious figures are the main opponents of mainstream science.

    It's sort of like when you go to Chicago and say "The Cubs suck!" the first thing people think is "Sox fan?"
     
  20. scotthm

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    When a theory fails to explain important elements of its subject then we should have difficulties "accepting" it.

    A theory is just a tool, not dogma.

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