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Old July 24 2009, 09:57 PM   #1
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How about a Superman that can't fly?

Would this every work for you on "Smallville" or maybe as a movie. I remember when the last "Superman" movie came out they showed something about the orgins of the Superman comic and apparently, Superman in the first episodes didn't have the power of flight. That was actually something added later on.

Is flying now well know when it comes to the Superman to ditch?

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Old July 24 2009, 10:01 PM   #2
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

I think it's a must.

The ability to leap tall buildings just doesn't offer the same gusto as it used to.
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Old July 24 2009, 10:03 PM   #3
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

For better or worse, the ability to fly is now his most defining characteristic. I really can't see a future movie or TV show doing away with that (especially with all the other comic book movie competition out there).

Personally I'd love to see a return to the early days, when he was basically just a super-strong alien who was used to a stronger gravity. But it probably won't ever happen.
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Old July 24 2009, 10:07 PM   #4
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

How about a Superman that can't fly?
Watch Smallville.
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Old July 25 2009, 04:34 AM   #5
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

If he were jumping skyscrapers, he'd be making huge, arbitrary craters with every landing. It just wouldn't be credible.
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Old July 25 2009, 06:51 AM   #6
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

davejames wrote: View Post
Personally I'd love to see a return to the early days, when he was basically just a super-strong alien who was used to a stronger gravity. But it probably won't ever happen.
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If he were jumping skyscrapers, he'd be making huge, arbitrary craters with every landing. It just wouldn't be credible.
This is pretty much how they approached the Will Smith movie 'Hancock.'

Yeah, he was actually flying, not jumping, but aside from that detail the spirit of that film was exactly what you guys are describing.

My point being, I could enjoy a movie where a "super" man doesn't fly, but it has to be a new character. You can't do that with "THE" Superman anymore.
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Old July 25 2009, 06:57 AM   #7
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

Wasn't Kal-L (the Earth-2 Superman) retroactively described as not being able to actually fly, but only to leap tall buildings...then he later *learned* how to fly?
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Old July 25 2009, 11:16 AM   #8
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

In the abortive Superman Lives movie, to be directed by Tim Burton, starring Nic Cage, apparently producer Jon Peters had specified that he didn't want The Man of Steel to be able to fly. This was along other brainwaves like a Batman-esque suit and Superman fighting polar bears. Fortunately, this movie never saw the light of day.
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Old July 25 2009, 03:25 PM   #9
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

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If he were jumping skyscrapers, he'd be making huge, arbitrary craters with every landing. It just wouldn't be credible.
Well, unless he could control his strength to that great of an extent.

He is Superman, after all.

I still can't imagine him not flying though.
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Old July 25 2009, 04:01 PM   #10
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

Nah...Flying is too connected with Supes. The only way I can see it working in a movie is if it is one of those cartoon DC animated flicks.
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Old July 25 2009, 04:55 PM   #11
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

"You'll believe a man can hop."

Nah. Wouldn't work anymore. Not for Superman.
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Old July 25 2009, 05:43 PM   #12
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If he were jumping skyscrapers, he'd be making huge, arbitrary craters with every landing. It just wouldn't be credible.
Anytime he fights a villain, multiple skyscrapers come crashing to the ground and Metropolis ends up riddled in craters, so I don't think it makes a difference one way or the other.
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Old July 25 2009, 05:49 PM   #13
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

i'd love to do an Ultimate Superman type thing where he can't fly. i'd ditch shit loads of his powers and (heresy of heresies) make him one of a few Kryptonian kids to wind up on Earth. Each would have different powers; one would be Supergirl, one would wind up in China, one in the MidEast and the other in an American trailer park and become the villain. give him some proper threats to face.
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Old July 25 2009, 05:49 PM   #14
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

How many years has Smallville been on?
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Old July 25 2009, 06:52 PM   #15
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Re: How about a Superman that can't fly?

Jayson wrote: View Post
Would this every work for you on "Smallville" or maybe as a movie. I remember when the last "Superman" movie came out they showed something about the orgins of the Superman comic and apparently, Superman in the first episodes didn't have the power of flight. That was actually something added later on.

Is flying now well know when it comes to the Superman to ditch?

Jason
Well it has worked on Smallville so far. If you mean how about he puts on the suit and becomes superman before he learns to fly, that would work for a short period of time, but flying is one of his basic most known powers so any version of superman must have him flying at some point.
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