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View Poll Results: Which is your favorite look for Ben Sisko?
hair on scalp, not on face 6 7.32%
hair on scalp and face 6 7.32%
hair on face, not on scalp 70 85.37%
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Old July 22 2009, 09:28 PM   #46
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Re: Ben Sisko’s hair

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You lie. "the military usually lets haircuts be as you like" is clearly in your post.
I do not lie, since I said "the military". As in, "the military in my country". I'm not based in the US, as the text besides my posts clearly state.

The rest is all semantics. I don't think Starfleet is military, but that is a different discussion. We've seen examples of haircut regulations being enforced, and we've seen examples of it being overlooked. That does not mean I need to "pay more attention".

In essense; my point is this: We've seen all sorts of crazy hairstyles on Star Trek; nothing bland about them at all. If they were, you'd have a point. But they aren't, they are often strange.
I'm not the one who said they were bland. So that isn't my point to make. I said that it wasn't suprising to see bland or conformist hairstyles on Star Trek.

And claiming you didn't say what you actually said is considered lying.
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Old July 22 2009, 09:37 PM   #47
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And claiming you didn't say what you actually said is considered lying.
There you go again; re-read my post. I said exactly what I said, which was "the military" and, after that I said "not every military is the same". You said it yourself. And, seeing as I'm not from the US, I was clearly not talking about the US military. I could have been more clear on the point, by describing it differently, but I thought you'd understand that.
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Old July 22 2009, 09:46 PM   #48
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Re: Ben Sisko’s hair

DiSiLLUSiON wrote: View Post
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And claiming you didn't say what you actually said is considered lying.
There you go again; re-read my post. I said exactly what I said, which was "the military" and, after that I said "not every military is the same". You said it yourself. And, seeing as I'm not from the US, I was clearly not talking about the US military. I could have been more clear on the point, by describing it differently, but I thought you'd understand that.

I think you're actually trying to convince yourself.
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Old July 23 2009, 02:21 AM   #49
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Re: Ben Sisko’s hair

I'm in the minority -- I like him better with hair on his head and with a beard. -- RR
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Old July 27 2009, 02:33 AM   #50
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Re: Ben Sisko’s hair

I voted for option three: beard, "hair on face, not on scalp". But I'd've liked to see him with no hair on his face and none on the scalp.
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Old July 29 2009, 12:28 AM   #51
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I thought he looked much better bald.

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Old August 1 2009, 01:37 PM   #52
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I liked Sisko better without hair. He looked cooler & more mature tha way.

I don't think Starfleet really has much rules regarding to how one should wear one's hair given the multitude of different hairdos we see during the show. It wouldn'be practical anyway because not all of starfleet is human and not all aliens can be expected to wear their hair the same way.

I always had the impression that Starfleet is pretty relaxed in that way. Yes, Starfleet has rules on uniform (ensign Ro and the story about whether she was permitted to wear the earing or not) but captains and commanders seem to allow considerable leeway when it comes to those rules (Troi's Uniform, Worf's sash, Ro's earring, O'Briens sleeves rolled up etc)
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Old August 4 2009, 10:56 AM   #53
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Re: Ben Sisko’s hair

Well hell what happened to the gerry curl and the big ol FRO! Shieeet




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There are very few militaries that don't have uniform and appearance standards and regulations.
Of course, every military has regulations of some sort. However, the the actual regulations itself and the amount with which they are enforced tend to differ. Not only that, but aside from the times we did see certain regulations enforced, we've also seen a large amount of cases where strange or unpractical haircuts and improper uniforms have been allowed in Starfleet. As such, ascribing the regulations of a current-day military to Starfleet seems a bit strange.

You said "the military usually lets haircuts be as you like". I proved that to be false. Then you claim starfleet had no uniform and appearance standards. I pointed out that they do and we've seen them enforced several times. Seeing some one with adaptations to their starfleet uniform or hair style does not mean there are no regulations. Waivers were made for people like Scotti, Worf, Ro .. ect. So anyone we see in the background who appears to be out of uniform, obviously the character has had such issues wavered in regard to either their religion or cultural tradition. That is something that happens in today's military to an extent in non combat environments.

The point is : You have no argument.

Seeing someone who is slightly out of uniform does not mean that the orginaziton for which they wear the uniform is not military.
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Old August 4 2009, 11:39 AM   #54
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I don't get head shaving. It always makes the person look older and more boring.
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Old August 4 2009, 12:11 PM   #55
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I don't get head shaving. It always makes the person look older and more boring.
Not at all. And actually, it definitely has the opposite effect if the guy is already balding. Who do you think looks younger, stronger and sexier: a balding guy, or a guy with a shaved head? And even when they are not balding, some men just don't look that great with hair, and head shaving only makes them look more striking and more badass. Compare Michael Jordan with and without hair. Avery Brooks is another good example.
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Old August 4 2009, 12:33 PM   #56
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It's a stereotype. My husband has male pattern baldness and he keeps his hair cropped really close. It looks fine. If he shaved his head he would look like a prat.
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Old August 4 2009, 12:57 PM   #57
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It's a stereotype. My husband has male pattern baldness and he keeps his hair cropped really close. It looks fine. If he shaved his head he would look like a prat.
Depends on the individual. A shaved head makes some men look like thugs. Others look much better without any hair on their heads, Avery Brooks being one of them.
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