RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,448
Posts: 5,507,965
Members: 25,131
Currently online: 482
Newest member: xunixan

TrekToday headlines

TV Alert: Pine On Tonight Show
By: T'Bonz on Dec 22

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18

IDW Publishing March 2015 Comics
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Paramount Star Trek 3 Expectations
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Star Trek #39 Sneak Peek
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Star Trek 3 Potential Director Shortlist
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Official Starships Collection Update
By: T'Bonz on Dec 15

Retro Review: Prodigal Daughter
By: Michelle on Dec 13


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Trek Literature

Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 28 2009, 10:20 PM   #181
St. William Of Levittown
Vice Admiral
 
St. William Of Levittown's Avatar
 
Location: Rush Limborg is prepping for Christmas on The EIB Network
Re: The Typhon Pact

^I...seriously doubt Bacco's that...abrasive....

She's got a lot of guts and strength of will, but she's pretty reserved, too.


(BTW, I don't consider the ad I linked to to be "fear-culling" or "warmongering". The entire point of the ad was, "We don't KNOW much about this bear...whether it's hostile or not...so doesn't it make sense to be prepared for all scenarios...just in case?")
__________________
"The saying implies but does not name the effective agency of its supposed utopia.... 'Needs and abilities' are, of course, subjective. So the operative statement may be reduced to 'the State shall take, the State shall give'."
--David Mamet

Last edited by St. William Of Levittown; July 29 2009 at 05:46 PM.
St. William Of Levittown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28 2009, 10:21 PM   #182
Deranged Nasat
Vice Admiral
 
Deranged Nasat's Avatar
 
Location: Ch'Rihan.
Re: The Typhon Pact

I don't know if this has come up yet, but the Typhon Pact and the Federation's response (and the fearful position of some of its members) might factor in quite well to the plot of the recent film. It might help make Nero's blaming Spock and the Federation for Romulus' loss carry more weight, or give Nero's people more of a reason to be suspicious.

I can easily imagine Nero's crew thinking: "The Romulan Star Empire was dependent on Federation aid, until it joined the Typhon Pact and reclaimed superpower status. The Federation saw this as a threat. A handful of years later, when Romulus was at risk, the Federation, which borders the RSE, was...oops, bit too slow to help evacuate Romulus, terribly sorry. What a shame the RSE is again falling apart and our rival power just lost a major member world. If only we'd gotten there in time..."

Of course, we'll have to see what happened in the mean time first, but as it stands now... Just a thought.
__________________
We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.
Deranged Nasat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 12:26 AM   #183
rahullak
Fleet Captain
 
rahullak's Avatar
 
Location: India
Re: The Typhon Pact

^
I would also imagine that at some point before the Hobus nova event, the RSE splits from the Pact. That would make Nero want to blame the Federation even more: "We were no longer with the rival power anymore....They didn't have reason to delay and had every reason to prevent Romulus' destruction by any means possible and yet they didn't. They must pay for their hypocrisy and wickedness."

Just my angle on it.
rahullak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 04:19 PM   #184
St. William Of Levittown
Vice Admiral
 
St. William Of Levittown's Avatar
 
Location: Rush Limborg is prepping for Christmas on The EIB Network
Re: The Typhon Pact

^BTW, in the Countdown comic:



Maybe Donatra had something to do with this? Perhaps after a unification of her own....
__________________
"The saying implies but does not name the effective agency of its supposed utopia.... 'Needs and abilities' are, of course, subjective. So the operative statement may be reduced to 'the State shall take, the State shall give'."
--David Mamet

Last edited by St. William Of Levittown; July 29 2009 at 05:45 PM.
St. William Of Levittown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 04:49 PM   #185
BrotherBenny
Rear Admiral
 
BrotherBenny's Avatar
 
Location: BrotherBenny
View BrotherBenny's Twitter Profile Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to BrotherBenny Send a message via Yahoo to BrotherBenny
Re: The Typhon Pact

We're in 2382 now, and the Typhon Pact will still be a young power in 2387, so how would it fare with the loss of one of its major members?

Though I have serious doubts that a single supernova could "endanger the entire galaxy" as the Hobus supernova has been postulated to do, unless it was such a super-huge star that the shockwave made sure that every star in its path also went supernova, causing an A/BQ wide ripple effect.

With all that said and done, I am looking forward to what happens in the Prime universe when we reach 2387 and see this come to pass. I would also like to see how the events of Countdown are set up in the primelitverse.
__________________
"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined." - Henry David Thoreau

My blog / My crime stories
BrotherBenny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 06:43 PM   #186
CaptainDonovin
Fleet Captain
 
CaptainDonovin's Avatar
 
Location: Labrador City. woof
View CaptainDonovin's Twitter Profile
Re: The Typhon Pact

I don't know the exact relationship of the Pact members before they held hands & came together. The common thread between them is a dislike for the Federation & the Klingons. I can imagine the Romulans leaving the group over something with the Breen, since they were on opposite sides during the Dominion War.

Like BrotherBenny said we're in 2382 now so it could take a while till we get to the events of Countdown. It has taken almost seven years to get from Nemesis to the current time in the novels (longer for DS9 to catch up) so I could be a bit of a wait.
__________________
Long live DS9!
CaptainDonovin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 09:00 PM   #187
captcalhoun
Admiral
 
Location: everywhere
Re: The Typhon Pact

i wish we could just ignore that fucking supernova.

fucking stupid thing. stupidest science BS since the warp 10 lizards.
captcalhoun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 09:04 PM   #188
Ronald Held
Rear Admiral
 
Location: On the USS Sovereign
Re: The Typhon Pact

Without been sarcastic, too many months too late, now.
Ronald Held is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 09:18 PM   #189
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: "Don't blame me--I voted for Jaresh-Inyo!"
Re: The Typhon Pact

Rush Limborg wrote: View Post
Speaking of the Typhon Pact, and how unsure everyone is over whether it's "bad" or not....

It would be interesting if Nan Bacco would use something similar to the following as a campaign ad for a second term--with her face replacing Reagan's at the end, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npwdc...eature=related

Just sayin'....
Ummm. You do remember that Bacco was elected on a pro-peace, pro-diplomacy, anti-belligerence, let's-not-run-around-telling-everyone-that-we're-ready-to-go-to-war-with-them platform, right?

That's the sort of campaign ad that Arafel Pagro would run, not Nan Bacco.

Rush Limborg wrote: View Post
(BTW, I don't consider the ad I linked to to be "fear-culling" or "warmongering". The entire point of the ad was, "We don't KNOW much about this bear...whether it's hostile or not...so doesn't it make sense to be prepared for all scenarios...just in case?")
And I'm sure that that's what Bacco, indeed, any Federation President would do... behind closed doors.

To drag that out in the public sphere does not actually increase Federation security, though. Foreign states would be observing that kind of campaign rhetoric, and it would register with them. They would take it as a message of hostility and belligerence. To make the, "Let's get ready to kick everyone's ass just in case" notion a central part of your political platform is to, in essence, declare to the galaxy that you are untrustworthy, suspicious of others, and unwilling to trust others, and are therefore an unreliable potential ally.

Reagan is just lucky that Gorbachev was the guy who came to power in the Soviet Union in '85, leading to the liberalization policies that weakened Soviet unity and promoted the previously-suppressed nationalist sentiments that brought down the USSR. God knows what would have happened if a less liberal, more hot-headed asshat had taken the Kremlin.
__________________
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell, 1946
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 09:24 PM   #190
captcalhoun
Admiral
 
Location: everywhere
Re: The Typhon Pact

global thermonuclear war.

would you like to play?
captcalhoun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 09:36 PM   #191
rahullak
Fleet Captain
 
rahullak's Avatar
 
Location: India
Re: The Typhon Pact

Rush Limborg wrote: View Post
^BTW, in the Countdown comic:



Maybe Donatra had something to do with this? Perhaps after a unification of her own....
Donatra might have been friendly to the UFP, but I'm not sure she is in favor of unification with the Vulcans. Sure, she might make a bid for Romulan unification and at least try to make herself Praetor of a United Romulan Empire (URE?).
rahullak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 10:12 PM   #192
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: "Don't blame me--I voted for Jaresh-Inyo!"
Re: The Typhon Pact

rahullak wrote: View Post
Donatra might have been friendly to the UFP, but I'm not sure she is in favor of unification with the Vulcans. Sure, she might make a bid for Romulan unification and at least try to make herself Praetor of a United Romulan Empire (URE?).
I doubt Donatra would be in favor of unification with Vulcan, but presumably the "unification" the other poster was referring to was a reunification of the Romulan nation.

If Donatra were to take power over all Romulans, though, she wouldn't downgrade herself to Praetor; she would keep herself as Empress. No one willingly goes from being a Monarch to being a mere head of government.
__________________
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell, 1946
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 11:12 PM   #193
William Leisner
Scribbler
 
William Leisner's Avatar
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
View William Leisner's Twitter Profile
Re: The Typhon Pact

captcalhoun wrote: View Post
i wish we could just ignore that fucking supernova.

fucking stupid thing. stupidest science BS since the warp 10 lizards.
Ronald Held wrote: View Post
Without been sarcastic, too many months too late, now.
IHMO, the 2387 supernova happened in a parallel timeline. This will remain my opinion until I am dragged off to CBS/Paramount Re-education Camp.
William Leisner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 11:15 PM   #194
Deranged Nasat
Vice Admiral
 
Deranged Nasat's Avatar
 
Location: Ch'Rihan.
Re: The Typhon Pact

William Leisner wrote: View Post
captcalhoun wrote: View Post
i wish we could just ignore that fucking supernova.

fucking stupid thing. stupidest science BS since the warp 10 lizards.
Ronald Held wrote: View Post
Without been sarcastic, too many months too late, now.
IHMO, the 2387 supernova happened in a parallel timeline. This will remain my opinion until I am dragged off to CBS/Paramount Re-education Camp.
Am I not alone in mourning Romulus, then?
__________________
We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.
Deranged Nasat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29 2009, 11:18 PM   #195
Thor Damar
Rear Admiral
 
Thor Damar's Avatar
 
Location: Thor Damar, God of thunder and monologue..
Send a message via Yahoo to Thor Damar
Re: The Typhon Pact

^ No you are not. Just like I mourned for Cardassia Prime, I weep for the people of the Star Empire.
__________________
Current avatar brilliantly drawn by Gul Re'jel



Thor Damar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
federation, typhon pact

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.