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Old July 18 2009, 11:48 PM   #16
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I'd say Morrowind has aged very well. I would say that in most respects, I actually like Morrowind more than oblivion. The art design in Morrowind is more unique and varied, the story is more interesting, and I found its expansion packs to be more entertaining
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Old July 19 2009, 09:21 AM   #17
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^What system did you play Oblivion on?
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Old July 19 2009, 10:18 AM   #18
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I played it on both the PC and 360. The PC had the better controls but other than that I would say the PC and 360 versions were mostly comparable. I never got to try out the PS3 version
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Old July 23 2009, 12:30 AM   #19
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Looks awesome, thanks for the info!
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Old July 23 2009, 12:57 AM   #20
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Sweet! Thanks, Jim (and Bob).
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Old July 23 2009, 04:16 AM   #21
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Ah, Daggerfall, where I got infected with lycanthropy about half-way through the main plot by some merchant character (I think) and spent the entire rest of my time playing the game terrorizing the countryside and pwning enemies way beyond my level with magic-lethal claws and immunities to non-magic attacks. Good times. Never did finish it. Got a couple of corrupt saves and eventually dropped it.
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Old July 23 2009, 08:00 AM   #22
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I've been considering getting into The Elder Scrolls games for a long time. With most major gaming switching over from the PC on to the consoles, I was wondering how Oblivion compares between PC and PS3? Also, how dated is Morrowind nowadays?

I have both, and if you're not bothered about mods (which i'm not tbh, the few quest mods I've tried have been an amateurish mess and not worth anyone's time, and everything else is just cosmetic or loot) then 360 Oblivion exactly the same experience.

I prefer the 360 controls, largely because it seems Oblivion was layed out with a controller in mind first before being adapted to M&K. The PC version will look much nicer on a modern machine though, and run at a much higher resolution and smoother framerate. The 360 version chugs a bit in the wilderness - it usually maintains 30fps but I've seen it drop to about 10-12 and all versions of the game suffer from horrendous pop-in.

Morrowind has aged beautifully! Especially with texture replacers, Better Bodies/Heads and the Morrowind Graphics Extender - it's very easy to get it looking every bit as good as Oblivion and then some. I'll attempt to find some screenies...
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Old August 4 2009, 04:12 AM   #23
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While it was fun, Daggerfall was a buggy mess. Make sure you have all the patches and find a save game repair program, you will need it. Save often and leave yourself a long list of save files.
Oh, so many strange glitches used to happen in dungeons (not to mention custom spells). Bethesda was patching the game for years and years after its release and still never got it quite working.

I wonder if they've stripped out all the naughty bits? It's kinda sad seeing all the old books being censored in the new games.
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Old August 5 2009, 10:26 AM   #24
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Older RPGs can be kind of daunting at first (flail around, not understand what to do, get lost in samey-looking dungeon, get murdered by lvl 1 rat). But I'd love to give Daggerfall a try, depending on its Dosbox performance.

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I'd say Morrowind has aged very well. I would say that in most respects, I actually like Morrowind more than oblivion. The art design in Morrowind is more unique and varied, the story is more interesting, and I found its expansion packs to be more entertaining
Oblivion's world felt more alive, the npcs actually walked around and slept etc, and it had more involving quests.

However I did prefer the setting of Morrowind. I liked the exotic and slightly alien vibe - mushroom towers, insect-shell armour, dunmer culture, weird critters. More original than the wolves and castles of Cyrodil anyway. And the story behind the main quest was pretty cool too, with its theme of the end of an age of demigods.
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Old August 5 2009, 11:20 PM   #25
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anyone play fallout 3, developed by the same makers? Any good?
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Old August 6 2009, 01:07 AM   #26
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great game.
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Old August 6 2009, 08:38 AM   #27
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anyone play fallout 3, developed by the same makers? Any good?
Fallout 3 is a very good game. Probably the game I've played for the longest time ever, especially once you add in the DLC add ons.
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Old August 7 2009, 11:33 PM   #28
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Is there much interconnectivity of the 4 ES games? I understand the original introduced many different nations and each sequel has tended to only focus on about one of them?
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Old August 12 2009, 12:56 PM   #29
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Is there much interconnectivity of the 4 ES games? I understand the original introduced many different nations and each sequel has tended to only focus on about one of them?
It's a consistent universe, and many events/towns/characters from previous games are referenced and have an impact on the later ones. Some NPCs are encountered in multiple titles, like Mai'q The Liar (can be found on an island in Morrowind, loiters outside certain city gates in Oblivion). But it's not a strict and linear plot, just a timeline.

The lore establishes things like Daedra, The Nine Divines, Tamrielic geography, races, social attitudes etc pretty early on. Many of the books you can read in Daggerfall can be found and read in Morrowind & Oblivion too.

It's interesting to note that in Bloodmoon, the second and final expansion pack for Morrowind, there is a prophecy foretelling the events of Oblivion.
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It's interesting to note that in Bloodmoon, the second and final expansion pack for Morrowind, there is a prophecy foretelling the events of Oblivion.
sweet! I'm glad I got Morrowind on steam a while back
now I don't have to drag my xbox out of storage

I really love the Elder Scrolls series. it has the deepest amount of lore and backstory of any rpg I've played. The races, the Daedra, the nations and provinces, it's the only game series where I've stopped to read a book
I love how your character is greeted differently depending on faction standing, bounty etc (You n'wah!)
the factions are great too

the island of Vvardenfell in the province of Morrowind always felt larger and more epic than the physically larger area of Cyrodiil
the Ghostfence and the Red Mountain probably had something to do with it
not to mention the mushroom trees and dunmer architecture
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