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Old July 9 2009, 04:53 PM   #16
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Re: Babylon 5 - I'm finally going to do it

Watching Babylon 5 seems to be the trendy thing to do this summer, haha. Glad to hear it, I have been inspired by all the recent threads here at the BBS myself and I've been watching my way through the series for the last 2 weeks, just started disc 2 of season 2...This is my 4th time through and I am loving it more than ever.
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Old July 9 2009, 04:59 PM   #17
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middyseafort wrote: View Post
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londo has great lines right from the get-go:

varner. del varner

my god, man, we've become a tourist attraction. see the great Centauri Republic: Open 9 to 5 - Earth time.
My favorite Londo line from "The Gathering":

"You're a security chief, shouldn't you be securing something?"

And, of course, Garabaldi's response:

"I am. I'm securing you."

From that first moment, I knew that I was going to like Londo.
From that moment I knew I was going to love Garibaldi. Londo was like Stewart's Picard-the actor created him and fleshed him out by the time he uttered his first line.
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Old July 9 2009, 05:06 PM   #18
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My favorite Londo quote:
"If you see something this big with eight legs coming your way, let me know. I have to kill it before it develops language skills."

Just saw Severed Dreams the other day. Damn that was a good show.
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Old July 9 2009, 05:39 PM   #19
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middyseafort wrote: View Post
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londo has great lines right from the get-go:

varner. del varner

my god, man, we've become a tourist attraction. see the great Centauri Republic: Open 9 to 5 - Earth time.
My favorite Londo line from "The Gathering":

"You're a security chief, shouldn't you be securing something?"

And, of course, Garabaldi's response:

"I am. I'm securing you."

From that first moment, I knew that I was going to like Londo.
I too loved that entire exchange. I'm surprised we didn't get anything like that on DS9.
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Old July 9 2009, 08:31 PM   #20
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THe stuff from Londo and G'Kar have been really interesting and already you see the first seeds planted in the relationship of the two races, and their individual relationship.
[londo]And you ... you can go to hell too. I won't want you to feel left out.[/londo]


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Londo was like Stewart's Picard-the actor created him and fleshed him out by the time he uttered his first line.
Mr. Garibaldi!!!!!
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Old July 9 2009, 09:24 PM   #21
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Tamlyn Tomita's original voice performance. (It had been re-dubbed in the original to a 'softer' tone.)

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Really?

I've seen her in other stuff. Her accent never seemed thick enough to warrant such a thing.

Then again, every where else I've seen is a lot newer...
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Old July 9 2009, 09:28 PM   #22
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I don't think it was an accent thing. I think it was the aggressiveness of her performance, which, seeing the unchanged version, was the studio worrying over nothing.
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Old July 9 2009, 09:34 PM   #23
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Harvey is correct. As JMS posted:

One of the biggest changes is the one least immediately
apparent. After we finished the original pilot, some folks at WB felt
that Laurel was too...strong. They will rarely put it in terms quite
as blatant as that, but that was the message...she was "unlikeable,
unsympathetic, harsh." Meaning some of the guys felt she was too
strong, let's cut to the chase, okay?

They wanted her to loop her lines, soften their (her) delivery.
I fought this tooth and nail. I fought this until finally I was pulled
aside and it was communicated to me that B5 was, after all, still an
unknown property, could be a big failure, and if we ever wanted to see
this thing on the air, we'd accommodate this note (which was, I have to
admit on balance, one of the few they had). The advice was, in
essence, "Pick your battles."
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Old July 9 2009, 09:52 PM   #24
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Quick question: I've seen a lot of info on other departures on the show, but I wonder why Tamlyn Tomita left? There is not much there, but reading the B5 wiki entry on her is pretty interesting. (note: if you haven't seen the series, don't read it).
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Old July 9 2009, 10:18 PM   #25
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^^ According to JMS:

The reason Laurel Takashima/Tamlyn Tomita is not currently on the show
is because the actress didn't feel really comfortable in the role of a
military commander, and felt she might do better in other kinds of roles,
such as that which came along about the same time in a major motion picture;
she is now a highly-sought-after film performer.
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Old July 9 2009, 10:18 PM   #26
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That really sucks about Laurel's character. I'm going to like Ivoneva, but one of the things I really don't like in TV series is that we don't get to see strong-willed women. When we do, it's great, such as characters like later season Kes, Jadzia (I thought she was strong-willed) and some aspects of 7 of 9, as well as Ayren Sun. Most often we get just the sex up aspect of women actresses and that's why I liked Laurel. She was strong willed, and I didn't get a sense of she being there for sex value. She looked good as was. I can understand why Networks do this, but I don't necessarily like it.
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Old July 9 2009, 10:21 PM   #27
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With the possible exception of Talia, I don't think any of the female regulars could be described as "soft".....
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Old July 9 2009, 11:06 PM   #28
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Must be something in the water!
I didn't do it!

*walks away from the well, quietly*
I did.
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Old July 9 2009, 11:11 PM   #29
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one of the things I really don't like in TV series is that we don't get to see strong-willed women. When we do, it's great, such as characters like later season Kes, Jadzia (I thought she was strong-willed) and some aspects of 7 of 9, as well as Ayren Sun. Most often we get just the sex up aspect of women actresses and that's why I liked Laurel.

FWIW, Delenn was never sexed up, and it's hard to think of a stronger scifi female character (you'll see...).

kira (DS9) also comes to mind. and Zoe (from firefly).
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Old July 10 2009, 12:49 AM   #30
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The thing with Kira though is I didn't really like the whole relationship angle of her. I didn't like the stuff with Shakaar, and then the things with Odo in those early years were not interesting. It seemed like the tougher Kira in the early years kind of got softer in the later years, even though there were bursts of greatness, such as the Occupation arc, and her training the Cardassian rebels.
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