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Old July 11 2009, 09:42 PM   #46
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Re: ?Defying Gravity" 13-episode ABC sci-fi astronaut space series

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Gray's Anatomy in space? No thanks.

I'd rather watch porn actors trying to act in a movie without sex.
I have the perfect thing for you. See the thread in the General Trek forum called 'This Ain't Star Trek XXX" on the DVD/Blu-ray they have a non-sex feature of them acting for 22 minutes.
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Old July 11 2009, 10:10 PM   #47
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Have we know Livingston's character's name before now? It's Maddux Donner. Not sure how I feel about that. Have these people never heard about the Donner Party? This show might be more interesting than we expect.

S'funny, reading that description I'm getting a Virtuality flashback. Lots of pretty people, hunky lead actor/captain, Eyal Podell, the ships' doctor, reminds me of Omar Metwally, the ships' doctor.

However, it looks like Ron isn't actually playing the captain. Instead, the black guy is the actual captain. I guess they wouldn't also make the black guy the lead character, but it's something other than the standard boring "white-male-lead-as-captain" routine.

PS, is this the "Lust in Space" promo that sci fi fans were supposed to be avoiding? Faint hope that ad will get them anywhere. Who the heck is watching TV in the dead of summer?

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Old July 12 2009, 01:30 AM   #48
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Not having seen the trailer, I don't know what you mean. DO you find it preposterous that they would have sex? Because they undoubtedly would. There has surely been sex in space already; the space agencies just don't like to talk about it. Or are you saying that the trailer suggests it's never happened before? That would be preposterous.
I'm just saying I find it silly that the end result of having four men and four women in an enclosed space would naturally mean that they would each pair up and have boff each other.

But sure, 5 year mission and all that, so shit happens. But it just calls for contrived drama... like on Virtuality where guy A finds out his wife is having cybersex with the captain.

Then again, I guess that's why people still watch Big Brother.
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Old July 12 2009, 02:52 AM   #49
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They could just use the regular excuse: that 99% of the viewers don't know any different, so what justifies even the miniscule additional cost of getting the science right?
Basic professionalism justifies it. You just shouldn't do sloppy work when you're capable of doing better.
That depends on if it's economically viable. If it takes 20% of the budget to get that 1% of realism, it's not viable and (in most cases) shouldn't be done.
What's budget got to do with it? It's a matter of storytelling choices. It's a matter of doing the research. It doesn't cost any more money to write a scientifically authentic line of exposition than it does to write a sentence loaded with random technobabble. It doesn't cost any more money to do a 15-second CGI shot of a spaceship moving realistically in space than it would to do a 15-second CGI shot of it banking and swooping like a fighter jet. It would probably cost less in terms of rendering time to animate a realistic vacuum explosion than to do one of those stupid, cliched roiling orange fireballs, because it would be over a whole lot quicker. (A realistic nuclear explosion in space would basically just be a single frame of blinding white light -- what could be cheaper?) Heck, most genre shows pay money to hire science consultants and then ignore most of what the consultants tell them. They'd get better use of their money if they just listened to the consultants.


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But it just calls for contrived drama... like on Virtuality where guy A finds out his wife is having cybersex with the captain.
Actually I don't think the guy found out.
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Old July 12 2009, 02:52 AM   #50
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I don't have high hopes for this series at all. It seems a little too much like "Virtuality" minus the virtual part. Since I didn't like "Virtuality", that doesn't inspire me to watch.

I will most likely end up watching the first episode (just to give it a chance).
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Old July 12 2009, 09:30 AM   #51
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But it just calls for contrived drama... like on Virtuality where guy A finds out his wife is having cybersex with the captain.
Actually I don't think the guy found out.
They showed him "enhancing the footage" or whatever so that he could hear the captain say "I love you".

I like a good love triangle as much as someone else... but leave that stuff for hormonal highschoolers, not supposedly professional astronauts.
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Old July 12 2009, 10:18 PM   #52
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I like a good love triangle as much as someone else... but leave that stuff for hormonal highschoolers, not supposedly professional astronauts.
Yeah, it's totally unrealistic.
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Old July 12 2009, 10:47 PM   #53
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I like a good love triangle as much as someone else... but leave that stuff for hormonal highschoolers, not supposedly professional astronauts.
Yeah, it's totally unrealistic.
If the love triangles on this show involve psychotic behavior and Depends, I might just relent with my no-romance-in-sci-fi attitude.
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Old July 12 2009, 11:08 PM   #54
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I like a good love triangle as much as someone else... but leave that stuff for hormonal highschoolers, not supposedly professional astronauts.
Yeah, it's totally unrealistic.
I was wondering when this one would come up.
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Old July 12 2009, 11:59 PM   #55
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Yeah no sex and soap opera stuff.

Much better to stick with the tried and true ways that made Star Trek, BSG, B5, Heroes, and other shows like that a huge success. We are not into that try new things kinda of stuff, that's why we stay home and post on the internet and watch TV....
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Old July 13 2009, 12:14 AM   #56
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How is sex and soap opera a new thing in sci fi?

Not a BSG viewer, huh?
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Old July 13 2009, 12:26 AM   #57
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What, aren't you one of the ones not wanting that in this new show?

Yeah I watched BSG, after watching people here praise it DS9 style, I gave it a try. It was pretty good not as good as some people tried to make it out to be but worth watching and trying to keep up with once I had caught up.
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Old July 13 2009, 03:27 AM   #58
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This series on broadcast television has the potential to be 2009-2010's version of TOS season 1.
Doesn't look like it from the trailer.

Please don't take that in the wrong way. When was the last time we had a broadcast television series set in space with astronauts that was not Star Trek, Firefly, or Babylon5....
That's a broad assortment of shows right there, and one might as well say "the last time we had a show that wasn't Star Trek or Babylon 5 was Firefly" it's a fairly meaningless list.

Since it was pitched as 'Grey's Anatomy' in space I'm going to guess it is ABC's verision of of "Virtuality" the pilot that aired on Sci-Fi...
Again, I don't see any of what was intriguing about Virtuality in the ad for this show. They're selling it as a pretty unimaginative show about shallow relationships between putatively attractive ciphers.
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Old July 18 2009, 04:05 AM   #59
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August 2 Sunday is the 2-hour premiere.

After seeing another promo tonight i see it does not look like the next TOS but it has potential to raise sci-fi awareness and popularity on TV and on the 7 broadcast networks.
i don't care if it is a partial soap opera. they have to deal with space, EVA, and a pressurized ship. It can't all be he said she said and sex.
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Old July 31 2009, 04:29 AM   #60
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Don't forget, in the U.S. the pilot episode airs Sunday at 9 to 11 pm EST. I haven't seen much about this show yet but I'm going to give it a try.
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