Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme

1bulma1 · November 27 2010, 05:12 PM

A youtube user posted this comment on A
spock and uhura video
‘‘What I found surprising is how well this romance worked considering the two characters only shared 3 brief scenes together, which added up to maybe 5 minutes? It was 100 times more effective than the Anakin/Padme romance in the Star Wars prequels, even though that relationship literally sucked up half the screen time in Episode II’’

so I can't help but ask what romance do u guys prefer? Anakin and Padme or Spock and Uhura?

King Daniel Into Darkness · November 27 2010, 05:44 PM

I don't think it's a very fair comparison (the focus of a trilogy vs. five or six minutes), but I say Spock and Uhura. It was a very small part of the film, but their relationship was well portrayed. There was none of the mushy "doomed love" pathos, they were simply portrayed as two twentysomethings in a relationship - it was much more real life than Star Wars' fairytale story. Will their relationship last? Is it serious? Who knows. It was more believable and didn't annoy me.

...and of course, Spock/Uhura utterly infuriated a portion of the TOS fanbase, which led to a few entertaining rants and raves over the years

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Temis the Vorta · November 27 2010, 10:17 PM

Even in the context of this place, I gotta admit that this thread title made me chuckle: oooooooh we are nerds now!

But I will out-nerd you all by asking: are we talking about PT Anakin and Padme or Clone Wars Anakin and Padme? It makes all the difference...

The key here is that the characters must be well written before any romance (or even any story) is worth bothering with.

Spock and Uhura - both well written, but there's no real dramatic tension between them that is central to the story.

PT Anakin and Padme - makes no sense to begin with, since Anakin is a creepy stalker and therefore Padme must be a dolt.

Clone Wars Anakin and Padme - rewriting Anakin's character to make him far more likeable and attractive, and less creepy, solves the logic problem of why their relationship even exists. And as it turns out, they do have a real dramatic tension between them that is central to the story, so they win.

Admiral Buzzkill · November 27 2010, 11:27 PM

This is a trick question.

You might as well ask "Mr. Ed and Wilbur, or Anakin and Padme?

The winner is the horse, of course.

"Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien, or Anakin and Padme?"

Come on, you'd at least stop for a moment to think about the Chin and Coco going at it. They win, again.

"Susan Boyle gargling a cup of Andrew Llloyd Weber's spit, or Anakin and Padme?"

Even there, Anakin and Padme lose on the basis of being more of a gross-out.

There's not a match-up those two can win.

Shazam! · November 27 2010, 11:45 PM

I guess something to take into consideration is that the Anakin / Padme relationship is actually relevant to the story being told whereas Spock / Uhura is thrown in there 'just because'.

Admiral Buzzkill · November 28 2010, 12:02 AM

Not at all. A poorly-written and badly-acted relationship being central to a lame story as in the case of Anakin/Padme is inferior to a relationship as a minor subplot that involves two attractive, believable actors in a good movie like Abrams's Star Trek.

Temis the Vorta · November 28 2010, 01:19 AM

Shazam! wrote:

I guess something to take into consideration is that the Anakin / Padme relationship is actually relevant to the story being told whereas Spock / Uhura is thrown in there 'just because'.

Even there, the way it was relevant in the PT (Anakin is a mommy's boy who throws a fit because Padme is doomed to die via plot contrivance) is moronic. TCW is developing a better storyline in which Padme and Anakin's differing personalities are leading them on separate paths that of course have to lead to the events of ROTS but I suspect in a way that puts a whole new spin on things. (And I'm rooting for a whole-cloth reboot of ROTS to delete the more nonsensical elements, such as Padme deciding to die despite have two newborn kids to worry about.)

Robert D. Robot · November 28 2010, 02:21 AM

Temis the Vorta wrote:

.... the more nonsensical elements, such as Padme deciding to die despite have two newborn kids to worry about.

Yeah, that was a pretty awful choice. If there was anything that would convince Padme that she had a reason to pull through and live would be that she would soon give birth to her children who, as far as she knows, only have her as the sole surviving parent to care for them...

Smellincoffee · November 28 2010, 02:50 AM

Can you blame Padme? She used to be a queen, an influential senator. The script of ROTS had her just standing in the background fretting and crying like an irrelevant housewife in some 1950s comedy.

Kelso · November 28 2010, 03:52 AM

I felt more for both Spock/Uhura and George/Winona than I did for Anakin/Padme.

Temis the Vorta · November 28 2010, 05:30 AM

Smellincoffee wrote:

Can you blame Padme? She used to be a queen, an influential senator. The script of ROTS had her just standing in the background fretting and crying like an irrelevant housewife in some 1950s comedy.

That should have given her even more reason to live. Somehow, she was going to jump realities and murder George Lucas.

Cyke101 · November 28 2010, 11:58 AM

Shazam! wrote:

I guess something to take into consideration is that the Anakin / Padme relationship is actually relevant to the story being told whereas Spock / Uhura is thrown in there 'just because'.

As much as I want to agree with you, the instant I remembered that Padme said, "You're breaking my heart!," I gave it to Spock and Uhura.

...but James Earl Jones yelling NAAAOOOOOO might win it back for Team Star Wars.

JarodRussell · November 28 2010, 01:28 PM

Dennis wrote:

Not at all. A poorly-written and badly-acted relationship being central to a lame story as in the case of Anakin/Padme is inferior to a relationship as a minor subplot that involves two attractive, believable actors in a good movie like Abrams's Star Trek.

Dennis wrote:

Only in your opinion, not as a matter of fact.

Temis the Vorta · November 28 2010, 09:43 PM

As much as I want to agree with you, the instant I remembered that Padme said, "You're breaking my heart!," I gave it to Spock and Uhura.

If you're rooting for Team Star Wars, it's best not to bring up the topic of dialogue.

CaptainStoner · November 29 2010, 12:29 AM

Wait. I have the answer.

Uhura....and Padme.

November 27 2010, 05:12 PM	#1
1bulma1 Lieutenant Commander	Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme A youtube user posted this comment on A spock and uhura video ‘‘What I found surprising is how well this romance worked considering the two characters only shared 3 brief scenes together, which added up to maybe 5 minutes? It was 100 times more effective than the Anakin/Padme romance in the Star Wars prequels, even though that relationship literally sucked up half the screen time in Episode II’’ so I can't help but ask what romance do u guys prefer? Anakin and Padme or Spock and Uhura?

November 27 2010, 05:44 PM	#2
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme I don't think it's a very fair comparison (the focus of a trilogy vs. five or six minutes), but I say Spock and Uhura. It was a very small part of the film, but their relationship was well portrayed. There was none of the mushy "doomed love" pathos, they were simply portrayed as two twentysomethings in a relationship - it was much more real life than Star Wars' fairytale story. Will their relationship last? Is it serious? Who knows. It was more believable and didn't annoy me. ...and of course, Spock/Uhura utterly infuriated a portion of the TOS fanbase, which led to a few entertaining rants and raves over the years. __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

November 27 2010, 10:17 PM	#3
Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Location: Tatoinne	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme Even in the context of this place, I gotta admit that this thread title made me chuckle: oooooooh we are nerds now! But I will out-nerd you all by asking: are we talking about PT Anakin and Padme or Clone Wars Anakin and Padme? It makes all the difference... The key here is that the characters must be well written before any romance (or even any story) is worth bothering with. Spock and Uhura - both well written, but there's no real dramatic tension between them that is central to the story. PT Anakin and Padme - makes no sense to begin with, since Anakin is a creepy stalker and therefore Padme must be a dolt. Clone Wars Anakin and Padme - rewriting Anakin's character to make him far more likeable and attractive, and less creepy, solves the logic problem of why their relationship even exists. And as it turns out, they do have a real dramatic tension between them that is central to the story, so they win.

November 27 2010, 11:27 PM	#4
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme This is a trick question. You might as well ask "Mr. Ed and Wilbur, or Anakin and Padme? The winner is the horse, of course. "Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien, or Anakin and Padme?" Come on, you'd at least stop for a moment to think about the Chin and Coco going at it. They win, again. "Susan Boyle gargling a cup of Andrew Llloyd Weber's spit, or Anakin and Padme?" Even there, Anakin and Padme lose on the basis of being more of a gross-out. There's not a match-up those two can win. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

November 27 2010, 11:45 PM	#5
Shazam! Rear Admiral	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme I guess something to take into consideration is that the Anakin / Padme relationship is actually relevant to the story being told whereas Spock / Uhura is thrown in there 'just because'.

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November 28 2010, 12:02 AM	#6
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme Not at all. A poorly-written and badly-acted relationship being central to a lame story as in the case of Anakin/Padme is inferior to a relationship as a minor subplot that involves two attractive, believable actors in a good movie like Abrams's Star Trek. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

November 28 2010, 02:50 AM	#9
Smellincoffee Fleet Captain Location: Vulcan	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme Can you blame Padme? She used to be a queen, an influential senator. The script of ROTS had her just standing in the background fretting and crying like an irrelevant housewife in some 1950s comedy. __________________ "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.." - Commander Montgomery Scott.

November 28 2010, 03:52 AM	#10
Kelso Vice Admiral Location: On the destruct button until the last minute!	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme I felt more for both Spock/Uhura and George/Winona than I did for Anakin/Padme. __________________ "Murder on Tuesday"! The all-new comic strip from Kail Tescar's startrekanimated.com My Puppet Building Blog!

November 29 2010, 12:29 AM	#15
CaptainStoner Knuckle-dragging TNZ Denizen Location: Hill dweller	Re: Spock and Uhura or Anakin and Padme Wait. I have the answer. Uhura....and Padme.