Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series?

Dinosauricon · July 5 2009, 10:33 PM

James Bond has had plenty of parodies and rip-offs, but it's apparentally come close to spin-offs a few times.

When Jack Lord played Felix in Dr.No there was talk of a Felix spin-off movie even then. However I think with Lord refusing to reprise Felix in the sequels, this kind of deal fell through.

Then there was talk of spinning off the action Bond girls from the Brosnan era, Wai Lin (Michelle Yeoh) and Jinx (Halle Berry). This kind of didn't work out for a number of reasons. While a Wai Lin film couldn't been cool, Halle Berry's Jinx wasn't exactly a great character and Halle as a stand-alone action star wasn't probably a good idea for EON after "Catwoman" tanked.

It seems the Bond films at this point are more interested in developing Bond right now then they are in potential other franchises, as there doesn't seem to be any characters that can really support a spinoff at this point....

The Borgified Corpse · July 5 2009, 10:35 PM

I loved Wai Lin. They should have brought her back for Die Another Day. I mean, her headquarters was awesome! It was like the Batcave!

Dinosauricon · July 5 2009, 10:50 PM

Yeah, I can see her fitting better into DIE ANOTHER DAY...the American angle in the film just seemed kind of pasted on so they could get Michael Madsen and Halle in it. Apparentally though they were just considering her for the scene in the hotel at the beginning of the film instead of the whole Bond girl bit.

Believe it or not they actually were considering Madsen to be a recurring character, a replacement for Felix and Jack Wade. Thankfully, they just rebooted Felix instead.

Broccoli · July 6 2009, 12:44 AM

I kinda hope they don't. I like Bond being his own little thing.

Also, they can't really do a spin-off until they get what people think of the character. If they speed to get a spin-off made on a character that proves to be unpopular, then that's time and money wasted. However, if they wait to see how the character is responded to by audiences, by the time they get the movie actually made and released, the next Bond movie is likely already out and the spin-off could be looked upon as a big "Who cares? That was the last movie."

wamdue · July 6 2009, 01:23 AM

Broccoli wrote:

I kinda hope they don't. I like Bond being his own little thing.

Also, they can't really do a spin-off until they get what people think of the character. If they speed to get a spin-off made on a character that proves to be unpopular, then that's time and money wasted. However, if they wait to see how the character is responded to by audiences, by the time they get the movie actually made and released, the next Bond movie is likely already out and the spin-off could be looked upon as a big "Who cares? That was the last movie."

which is why you do first.

Bond movie 1: character appears, the public respond well, mention they would like to see him/her again in either the next movie or a spin-off

Bond movie 2: character again appears in Bond
after a short space of time (maximum a year) spin off movie: the character is spun off into a movie.

Broccoli · July 6 2009, 06:14 AM

wamdue wrote:

Broccoli wrote:

I kinda hope they don't. I like Bond being his own little thing.

Also, they can't really do a spin-off until they get what people think of the character. If they speed to get a spin-off made on a character that proves to be unpopular, then that's time and money wasted. However, if they wait to see how the character is responded to by audiences, by the time they get the movie actually made and released, the next Bond movie is likely already out and the spin-off could be looked upon as a big "Who cares? That was the last movie."

which is why you do first.

Bond movie 1: character appears, the public respond well, mention they would like to see him/her again in either the next movie or a spin-off

Bond movie 2: character again appears in Bond
after a short space of time (maximum a year) spin off movie: the character is spun off into a movie.

True...however, I am a grumpy fan who likes to keep to conventions

If it is a recurring character (like say Felix or even Michael Madsen's character), then maybe okay. If it is a Bond girl, no way! I like the formula that we get a new Bond girl each movie (and I don't count Sylvia Trench as she was intended as a recurring character like Moneypenny, Q, and M).

That being said, if they did spin off a character, I'd probably go see and and eventually buy the DVD.

paudemge · July 6 2009, 06:19 AM

No, i don't think there will be a spin off. And i doubt any of the spin off talks went very far. Certainly not for a big budget film.

Hermiod · July 6 2009, 07:20 AM

Hopefully never - otherwise we'll get The Adventures of Vesper. She might have died, but they'll find a way.

She already looks like a zombie half the time anyway.

Starkers · July 6 2009, 10:36 AM

I don't see any point in a Bond spinoff, and I'm not even sure of any character I'd really have liked to see have their own film series...Of my three favourite Bond girls 2 died and the third's major skill was playing a cello! That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Allyn Gibson · July 6 2009, 12:42 PM

I would have loved a series of Charlie Robinson spin-off films. If they weren't going to cast Colin Salmon as Bond, then surely they could turn him into another 00-agent. Do them lower budget, less gadgets, more realism, with an R-rating, and they could have been gold. And you could still have Dame Judi Dench as M.

Broccoli · July 6 2009, 02:14 PM

Starkers wrote:

I don't see any point in a Bond spinoff, and I'm not even sure of any character I'd really have liked to see have their own film series...Of my three favourite Bond girls 2 died and the third's major skill was playing a cello! That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Yes, Kara played a cello...OF DEATH!!!

Starkers · July 6 2009, 02:19 PM

Broccoli wrote:

Starkers wrote:

I don't see any point in a Bond spinoff, and I'm not even sure of any character I'd really have liked to see have their own film series...Of my three favourite Bond girls 2 died and the third's major skill was playing a cello! That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Yes, Kara played a cello...OF DEATH!!!

ha ha I like it. Maybe every film she could get involved in murder and espionage in an orchestra?

The Borgified Corpse · July 8 2009, 05:14 AM

Starkers wrote:

That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Anywhere she wants to take me!

I figure, if Catwoman, Deadpool, & Venom can get spinoffs, so can Xenia.

Starkers · July 8 2009, 08:58 AM

The Borgified Corpse wrote:

Starkers wrote:

That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Anywhere she wants to take me!

I figure, if Catwoman, Deadpool, & Venom can get spinoffs, so can Xenia.

What a way to go!

Just finished watching Goldeneye again, and to be honest I've seen people come back from way more obvious deaths!

wamdue · July 8 2009, 09:43 AM

The Borgified Corpse wrote:

Starkers wrote:

That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it.

Anywhere she wants to take me!

I figure, if Catwoman, Deadpool, & Venom can get spinoffs, so can Xenia.

but arnt all of those moives not reasons to not give her a spin-off?

July 5 2009, 10:33 PM	#1
Dinosauricon Lieutenant	Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? James Bond has had plenty of parodies and rip-offs, but it's apparentally come close to spin-offs a few times. When Jack Lord played Felix in Dr.No there was talk of a Felix spin-off movie even then. However I think with Lord refusing to reprise Felix in the sequels, this kind of deal fell through. Then there was talk of spinning off the action Bond girls from the Brosnan era, Wai Lin (Michelle Yeoh) and Jinx (Halle Berry). This kind of didn't work out for a number of reasons. While a Wai Lin film couldn't been cool, Halle Berry's Jinx wasn't exactly a great character and Halle as a stand-alone action star wasn't probably a good idea for EON after "Catwoman" tanked. It seems the Bond films at this point are more interested in developing Bond right now then they are in potential other franchises, as there doesn't seem to be any characters that can really support a spinoff at this point....

July 5 2009, 10:35 PM	#2
The Borgified Corpse Admiral Location: Making closing arguments with Jack McCoy & Michael Cutter	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? I loved Wai Lin. They should have brought her back for Die Another Day. I mean, her headquarters was awesome! It was like the Batcave! __________________ Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."

July 5 2009, 10:50 PM	#3
Dinosauricon Lieutenant	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? Yeah, I can see her fitting better into DIE ANOTHER DAY...the American angle in the film just seemed kind of pasted on so they could get Michael Madsen and Halle in it. Apparentally though they were just considering her for the scene in the hotel at the beginning of the film instead of the whole Bond girl bit. Believe it or not they actually were considering Madsen to be a recurring character, a replacement for Felix and Jack Wade. Thankfully, they just rebooted Felix instead.

July 6 2009, 12:44 AM	#4
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? I kinda hope they don't. I like Bond being his own little thing. Also, they can't really do a spin-off until they get what people think of the character. If they speed to get a spin-off made on a character that proves to be unpopular, then that's time and money wasted. However, if they wait to see how the character is responded to by audiences, by the time they get the movie actually made and released, the next Bond movie is likely already out and the spin-off could be looked upon as a big "Who cares? That was the last movie." __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

July 6 2009, 06:19 AM	#7
paudemge Captain	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? No, i don't think there will be a spin off. And i doubt any of the spin off talks went very far. Certainly not for a big budget film.

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July 6 2009, 07:20 AM	#8
Hermiod Admiral	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? Hopefully never - otherwise we'll get The Adventures of Vesper. She might have died, but they'll find a way. She already looks like a zombie half the time anyway.

July 6 2009, 10:36 AM	#9
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? I don't see any point in a Bond spinoff, and I'm not even sure of any character I'd really have liked to see have their own film series...Of my three favourite Bond girls 2 died and the third's major skill was playing a cello! That said I always thought Famke's "death" in Goldeneye wasn't conclusive, but much as I'd love a Xenia film, I'm really not sure where you could go with it. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

July 6 2009, 12:42 PM	#10
Allyn Gibson Rear Admiral Location: South Pennsyltucky	Re: Will there ever be a James Bond spin-off film series? I would have loved a series of Charlie Robinson spin-off films. If they weren't going to cast Colin Salmon as Bond, then surely they could turn him into another 00-agent. Do them lower budget, less gadgets, more realism, with an R-rating, and they could have been gold. And you could still have Dame Judi Dench as M.