Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures - Page 2

captcalhoun · June 25 2009, 07:33 AM

i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

Bob The Skutter · June 25 2009, 01:36 PM

captcalhoun wrote:

i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

That's what I thought too.

Cky · June 25 2009, 01:41 PM

I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film.

And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz.

Bob The Skutter · June 25 2009, 01:42 PM

Cky wrote:

I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film.

And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz.

The fact that he was an alien never stopped the Jar Jar complaints.

God Magnus · June 25 2009, 02:16 PM

captcalhoun wrote:

i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

I agree with this. My problem with Mudflap and Skids was not the "racial stereotyping", it's that they were ugly, annoying characters. They were like Gremlins on ecstasy or something.

To be fair, they get one very cool/heroic scene, but it doesn't quite wash away the bad taste of the rest of their presence in the film.

Bob The Skutter · June 25 2009, 02:17 PM

God Magnus wrote:

captcalhoun wrote:

i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

I agree with this. My problem with Mudflap and Skids was not the "racial stereotyping", it's that they were ugly, annoying characters. They were like Gremlins on ecstasy or something.

To be fair, they get one very cool/heroic scene, but it doesn't quite wash away the bad taste of the rest of their presence in the film.

I quite liked them, but yeah, they did remind me of Gremlins.

Cky · June 25 2009, 02:18 PM

Bob The Skutter wrote:

Cky wrote:

I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film.

And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz.

The fact that he was an alien never stopped the Jar Jar complaints.

Because Jar Jar was a cunt.

Bob The Skutter · June 25 2009, 02:22 PM

Cky wrote:

Bob The Skutter wrote:

Cky wrote:

I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film.

And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz.

The fact that he was an alien never stopped the Jar Jar complaints.

Because Jar Jar was a cunt.

But was he a black cunt, or just a cunt?

Cky · June 25 2009, 02:46 PM

Just a cunt Bob, just a cunt.

Mark de Vries · June 25 2009, 02:51 PM

I think that people who want to see racism in two unimportant movie characters should find something better to do with their time.

Besides, is it okay if they were based on rednecks and not if they were based on black people? Still stereotyping...

captcalhoun · June 25 2009, 03:22 PM

i did like the bit where Bumblebee picked them up and smacked them together...

and
"that hurt!"
"it was supposed to! it was an ass whuppin'!"

Harvey · June 25 2009, 05:26 PM

Mark de Vries wrote:

I think that people who want to see racism in two unimportant movie characters should find something better to do with their time.

Besides, is it okay if they were based on rednecks and not if they were based on black people? Still stereotyping...

Did somebody say that was okay while I wasn't looking?

Honestly, I'd care more about this if the movie was by a different director, wasn't based on a toy line of all things, and hadn't been so thoroughly trashed by the critics.

barnaclelapse · June 25 2009, 05:39 PM

captcalhoun wrote:

i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

Seriously. I know entirely too many white people who act like they do.

DontFeedPhil · June 25 2009, 05:41 PM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

Bad Bishop wrote:

Is it true that the hand-wringing POTUS in the film is named Obama?

Obama is the president in the film, yes. But he's not hand-wringing. In fact we never see him at all. He's only mentioned once: in one line that says he's being moved to a secure location. That's it.

Thats not true. We do indeed see Obama. But only in the backround on tv and it was just news footage of him. So he was actually on screen..

Hartzilla2007 · June 25 2009, 05:50 PM

Bob The Skutter wrote:

Cky wrote:

I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film.

And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz.

The fact that he was an alien never stopped the Jar Jar complaints.

And yet the heads of the Trade Federation got a pass.

June 25 2009, 07:33 AM	#16
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures i didn't think they were racial stereotypes anymore than i thought Jazz was. it's not like they're BLACK and talking like it. one's green and one's red. they sound more like redneck hicks.

June 25 2009, 01:41 PM	#18
Cky Captain Location: Cky	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures I would have said they sounded more like rednecks than the sterotyped black person. Nobody complained about Jazz in the first film. And we're forgetting the fundamental flaw in this arguement - THEY ARE ROBOTS. Not to mention they studied Earth's languages through the World Wide Web. I'm surprised none of them talked in lulz. __________________ Oh, I'm sorry! I thought this was -- Zombie Jesus? What are you doing here?!

June 25 2009, 02:46 PM	#24
Cky Captain Location: Cky	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures Just a cunt Bob, just a cunt. __________________ Oh, I'm sorry! I thought this was -- Zombie Jesus? What are you doing here?!

June 25 2009, 02:51 PM	#25
Mark de Vries Commodore Location: Groningen, the Netherlands	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures I think that people who want to see racism in two unimportant movie characters should find something better to do with their time. Besides, is it okay if they were based on rednecks and not if they were based on black people? Still stereotyping...

June 25 2009, 03:22 PM	#26
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Racial Caricatures i did like the bit where Bumblebee picked them up and smacked them together... and "that hurt!" "it was supposed to! it was an ass whuppin'!"

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