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Old June 29 2009, 05:11 PM   #241
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That's the sad part about it.
Yeah. It proves you can fool anyone at least once.

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Yeah, because if people like a film you dont enjoy, and pay their money repeatedly to watch it, the only reason is that they were fooled or they dont have as refined taste as you do.
No, it means they got the audience member to pay at least once, regardless of the quality (or lack thereof) of the movie. ET 2 could be a pile of steaming crap, but would do phenomenal business its first weekend, too.

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Old June 29 2009, 06:42 PM   #242
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You know, if you are going to critique the movie, you should at least watch it. I've been paying for movies lately, even though I don't have to (and not illegally either).

Transformers was an overbloated mess. Instead of getting some real characterization for the characters they had in the first movie, they decided to throw more in there. Does anyone know which Decepticons were in this movie? There was like 15 and only three really talked.

Also, Megan Fox sucks. Sorry. But if that's going to be half of the movie, seriously, get a stronger actress.

It was a bad movie over all.
Megan Fox definitely isn't the strongest actress ever, but I think the bigger problem is they tried to turn her into a soft lovey dovey type, and that's clearly NOT who she is. You could tell she was cringing inside at some of that corny dialogue she had to say. lol
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Old June 29 2009, 06:58 PM   #243
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I went in with the lowest of low expectations and a great time! It is a silly, mindless action movie and on that level it succeed well. I found the action and basic plot easy to follow and just a vehicle for each action sequence. I won't get into the plot problems, etc, but turned my brain off when watching and had 2.5 hours of fun and escape. Just what I was looking for.
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Old June 29 2009, 07:00 PM   #244
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I went in with the lowest of low expectations and a great time! It is a silly, mindless action movie and on that level it succeed well. I found the action and basic plot easy to follow and just a vehicle for each action sequence. I won't get into the plot problems, etc, but turned my brain off when watching and had 2.5 hours of fun and escape. Just what I was looking for.
I saw it after working a 12-hour day, so I was exhausted and my brain was fried. I think that's why I was able to enjoy myself so much!
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Old June 29 2009, 08:27 PM   #245
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TheBolianChef wrote: View Post
You know, if you are going to critique the movie, you should at least watch it. I've been paying for movies lately, even though I don't have to (and not illegally either).

Transformers was an overbloated mess. Instead of getting some real characterization for the characters they had in the first movie, they decided to throw more in there. Does anyone know which Decepticons were in this movie? There was like 15 and only three really talked.

Also, Megan Fox sucks. Sorry. But if that's going to be half of the movie, seriously, get a stronger actress.

It was a bad movie over all.
Megan Fox definitely isn't the strongest actress ever, but I think the bigger problem is they tried to turn her into a soft lovey dovey type, and that's clearly NOT who she is. You could tell she was cringing inside at some of that corny dialogue she had to say. lol
That's true and you can tell they were just going on how she looks...I mean seriously did we need that scene where she is stripping off half her clothes?
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Old June 29 2009, 08:46 PM   #246
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^^^ We needed it more than seeing a dog humping another dog.
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Old June 29 2009, 08:54 PM   #247
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That's true and you can tell they were just going on how she looks...I mean seriously did we need that scene where she is stripping off half her clothes?
I was fine with that scene, but then again I find her hot and knew that this was the kind of movie where everything would be exploited from robots to explosions to humor. I think Fox changing for Sam was the LEAST of this film's problems.
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Old June 29 2009, 11:42 PM   #248
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That's true and you can tell they were just going on how she looks...I mean seriously did we need that scene where she is stripping off half her clothes?
I was fine with that scene, but then again I find her hot and knew that this was the kind of movie where everything would be exploited from robots to explosions to humor. I think Fox changing for Sam was the LEAST of this film's problems.
There was more than that.

How in God's name did they make Wheelie even more annoying?
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Old June 29 2009, 11:56 PM   #249
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So, I've not yet seen this movie -this weekend I went to see "The Hangover"- but I'll likely see it this weekend with my best-friend (who was out of town this past weekend.)

But, needless to say, my hopes are not high as I didn't much like the first one.

But, anyway, anyone see the Spoony Experiment review?
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Old June 30 2009, 03:13 AM   #250
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How in God's name did they make Wheelie even more annoying?
See, I never found Wheelie in G1 as annoying as most fans make him out to be. Especially after "Headmasters", where he was a halfway competent character.

This Wheelie was annoying, but the character grew over the course of the movie. Then...they destroyed it all in one scene. *Sigh*
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Old June 30 2009, 03:47 AM   #251
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None of the characters annoyed me except Sam's mom when she was high on "brownies."
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Old June 30 2009, 06:20 AM   #252
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How in God's name did they make Wheelie even more annoying?
See, I never found Wheelie in G1 as annoying as most fans make him out to be. Especially after "Headmasters", where he was a halfway competent character.

This Wheelie was annoying, but the character grew over the course of the movie. Then...they destroyed it all in one scene. *Sigh*
Wheelie was actually decent in the comics. He was a tad annoying in the movies.
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Old June 30 2009, 08:05 AM   #253
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Just a tidbit about the audience reaction to the movie in the theatre I was in, first of all it was a packed house and people who were late coming in were turned back (I wonder if they got their tickets bumped to a later show?) and most everyone laughed at the obvious jokes. I was a little shocked at the end when two thirds of the audience gave the movie a standing ovation. I was just sitting with my friends and I turned to one and said....wtf...they're giving this a standing ovation?

I hated the comedic deconstruction of Judy and Ron Witwickey, they were one of my favourite parts of the first movie. I'm a big Kevin Dunn fan (Ron) especially Judy acting like an insane mom on campus and then getting high on brownies. I don't think the Judy from Transformers would have done that. The only good scene they had together was in Egypt when Sam was telling them that they had to let go (I actually almost shed a tear) and let Bumblebee take them.
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Old June 30 2009, 08:20 AM   #254
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I thought this movie was better than the first, but the first had a little more heart I guess. This movie was big, very big! Plenty of robots and plenty of action. The Decepticons got a lot more time than the Autobots and Starscream was finally realized as the squirmish coward who wanted to take over. Megatron was awsome and had more face time. Bumble Bee kicked ass and so did Optomus. The humor was so much better and although the movie was long, I was fine with it. Star Trek should have had that leangth. Nero's sub plot would have made more sense if it would have been left in. This movie kept everything. The things I didn't like were the Twins and the fact that were exposed to so many no name robots that just got killed or had no lines. I thought that Orci wanted RC. in so bad, but she didn't get any lines. Ratchet and Ironhide had very little lines and Jet fire had too many. I wanted to see Jetfire kick more ass. I thought I saw thundercracker , but he got killed in the forest. Sound wave was awsome though and definately my favorite new bot. I hope soundwave comes back in the third one. I just can't see what else can happen other than the final battle like Star Wars, POTC, LOTR, ect...ect.... I loved devestator, but he was kinda in choherant. They need to give them faces that you look at and say, theres his face. I gave it an above agerage 8.5 out of 10 no Dark Knight, but definately a good sequel. I also want to say I loved the interaction with the military too.
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Old June 30 2009, 11:20 AM   #255
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that was Starscream, Megs and Grindor in the forest. Grindor being the Blackout clone.
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