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Old June 21 2009, 08:44 PM   #91
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Re: What I Don't Like About the USS Kelvin

It's not really suspension of disbelief that's often the problem among Trekkies (myself included). It's when Trek violates its own established rules, its own "framework," that the suspension of disbelief is pushed past the breaking point.

Do I think that happened in XI, or with the Kelvin? Nah, not really.
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Old June 21 2009, 08:50 PM   #92
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Even though the ship has two hulls (engineering and primary), apparently the primary hull is incapable of separating, and acting as a lifeboat as was the intentions of Matt Jeffries.
Is this supposed to be funny? The entire ship is just a saucer with a nacelle and a hangar/cargo pod attached to it. What the hell would the saucer separate FROM?
Robau.
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Old June 22 2009, 01:01 AM   #93
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A Kelvin saucer separation, that's a funny thought. That would basically be exploding.
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Old June 23 2009, 04:48 AM   #94
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Still, with the firepower the Narada had, I'm amazed the Kelvin wasn't just blown apart in one salvo
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Old June 23 2009, 05:03 AM   #95
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It was in the script.
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Old June 23 2009, 06:30 AM   #96
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I thought it was pretty obvious that it didn't separate because it couldn't in that senario.

It was to damaged to waste that much time or, its before it gets shot at - which is a bad time to split your shields in 2.
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Old July 2 2009, 08:02 AM   #97
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One question, why exactly cant the saucer separate - did you get that from the film or your imagination?
He made it up. The argument of "...as Matt Jeffries intended" is absolutely moot considering...

1. Matt Jeffries is dead.
2. Matt Jeffries did not design the Kelvin.
3. Matt Jeffries is dead.


The Kelvin was BEAUTIFUL! It has risen to a very high place on my overall favorite list of ship designs.
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Old July 2 2009, 09:40 AM   #98
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Still, with the firepower the Narada had, I'm amazed the Kelvin wasn't just blown apart in one salvo
You need to stop thinking like in real life terms this is called Science Fiction after all. The script needed the Kelvin to survive or no Kirk and it made a great openeing scene besides you can easily say Nero after that fight was more powerful due to the 25 years to upgrade
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Old July 2 2009, 08:31 PM   #99
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Still, with the firepower the Narada had, I'm amazed the Kelvin wasn't just blown apart in one salvo
You need to stop thinking like in real life terms this is called Science Fiction after all. The script needed the Kelvin to survive or no Kirk and it made a great openeing scene besides you can easily say Nero after that fight was more powerful due to the 25 years to upgrade
Plus, it wouldn't have allowed for Robau to have his badass can-opener demise if his ship had been blown away within the first 90 seconds of the movie.
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Old July 2 2009, 08:39 PM   #100
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The Narada's purpose in the beginning vs. the Kelvin was to cripple her and interrogate her captain to find out where Spock was.

If you just blow up the ship, how do you know where or when you are, much less where or when Spock is or will be?
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Old July 2 2009, 08:53 PM   #101
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Still, with the firepower the Narada had, I'm amazed the Kelvin wasn't just blown apart in one salvo
Not really considering Robau was its Captain and he is a mega badass.
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Old July 2 2009, 09:01 PM   #102
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The Narada's missiles were really slow looking. At the end, Spock was coming up on them head to head -- not the missiles chasing him, and they still looked slow.

You know, like one of those math word problems: If the Jellyfish leaves the station in Chicago at three o'clock going 45 miles an hour -- and the Narada's torpedoes leave Los Angeles at the same time, going 20 miles an hour -- how many sandwiches will Scotty have in the dining car?
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Old July 3 2009, 12:10 AM   #103
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You know, like one of those math word problems: If the Jellyfish leaves the station in Chicago at three o'clock going 45 miles an hour -- and the Narada's torpedoes leave Los Angeles at the same time, going 20 miles an hour -- how many sandwiches will Scotty have in the dining car?

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Old July 3 2009, 03:13 AM   #104
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The Narada's missiles were really slow looking. At the end, Spock was coming up on them head to head -- not the missiles chasing him, and they still looked slow.

You know, like one of those math word problems: If the Jellyfish leaves the station in Chicago at three o'clock going 45 miles an hour -- and the Narada's torpedoes leave Los Angeles at the same time, going 20 miles an hour -- how many sandwiches will Scotty have in the dining car?
Sandwiches from the future!

Pickle?
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Old July 3 2009, 03:58 AM   #105
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The Narada's missiles were really slow looking. At the end, Spock was coming up on them head to head -- not the missiles chasing him, and they still looked slow.

You know, like one of those math word problems: If the Jellyfish leaves the station in Chicago at three o'clock going 45 miles an hour -- and the Narada's torpedoes leave Los Angeles at the same time, going 20 miles an hour -- how many sandwiches will Scotty have in the dining car?
Sandwiches from the future!

Pickle?
and the sandwiches have future condmints
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