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Old July 19 2009, 04:36 AM   #181
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Re: What I Don't Like About the USS Kelvin

The NX-01 has a lot of aerodynamic streamlining and pleasing curves. The Kelvin is blockier than a Scion xB. Most people interpret chunky and blocky as a visual short-hand for lower-tech and streamlined and sexy as visual short-hand for more high tech stuff.
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Old July 19 2009, 04:05 PM   #182
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Old July 19 2009, 04:49 PM   #183
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I equate chunky and blocky with awesomeness and badassery.
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Old July 20 2009, 08:40 PM   #184
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Re: What I Don't Like About the USS Kelvin

Robau actually showered on those shuttles because his badass nudity strengthened morale on the ship.
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Old July 20 2009, 08:46 PM   #185
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What exactly do visible ply- and cardboard have to do with ST II? They were re-using a 7-figure bridge set, a 6-figure hero miniature -- leveraging off the leftovers from a 40mil plus movie.

And as far as that goes, doing the worn 'junk ship' approach is the cheap and easy way to do spaceships, both inside and out. That's why amateur films leveraged more off the SW/ALIEN look than the 2001 look -- it is achievable through creative scavenging.
It has to do with the fact that they didn't use CGI in that time; the technology wasn't available yet, or it wasn't cheap enough. If you need a set to look accurately weathered, you need to let it sit for a long time, or apply CGI. Just look at BSG's sets; in the first season, they were hardly weathered at all, it was only in the last season that the sets really came to life. I doubt either could have happened on STII.

Of course, you could always apply weathering the old fashioned way, but as far as I know, that's very time consuming to get it right.
Yeah, it is an art to 'break down' clothing to age them, that is why SKILLED craftsmen are employed to do this, just like skilled craftsmen light and photograph these things.

Why would you weather a practical set with CG instead of just doing it with physical tools? That's like
EDIT: oh I see these other folks pointed all this out already, thank christ.
Allow me to join the dog-pile:

Star Wars, 1977, $9 mil budget, pre-CGI.

There.
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Old July 20 2009, 09:32 PM   #186
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Robau actually showered on those shuttles because his badass nudity strengthened morale on the ship.
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Old July 21 2009, 07:07 PM   #187
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Robau actually showered on those shuttles because his badass nudity strengthened morale on the ship.
Where do I sign up?
My guess is the Faran Tahir Fan Club. Special Requests section on the site.
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Old July 21 2009, 11:18 PM   #188
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Very special.
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Old July 21 2009, 11:21 PM   #189
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So Special, there's a 7-day waiting list just to LOG ON.
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Old July 22 2009, 01:09 AM   #190
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So Special, there's a 7-day waiting list just to LOG ON.
And if youget past that point you will have to go through a series of humiliating and painful rituals to prove your worth to him JUST to get on the list of people being considered for joining.
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Old July 26 2009, 10:58 AM   #191
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I liked the outside, but not too hot about the inside.
Or the nacelle spewing exhaust.

Other than that, I liked it.
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Old July 27 2009, 07:40 PM   #192
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Re: What I Don't Like About the USS Kelvin

The Kelvin is kind of a science ship on steroids. And captained by a super-badass. J.T. Esteban had a LOT to live up to...and never did.
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Old July 27 2009, 07:51 PM   #193
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actually I liked the kelvin more than the nuprise

it looked more trek and less I-pod to me.
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Old July 28 2009, 04:23 AM   #194
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Herkimer Jitty wrote: View Post
The NX-01 has a lot of aerodynamic streamlining and pleasing curves. The Kelvin is blockier than a Scion xB. Most people interpret chunky and blocky as a visual short-hand for lower-tech and streamlined and sexy as visual short-hand for more high tech stuff.
So a Corvette looks more advanced than a Hummer?
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Old July 28 2009, 08:21 PM   #195
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The NX-01 has a lot of aerodynamic streamlining and pleasing curves. The Kelvin is blockier than a Scion xB. Most people interpret chunky and blocky as a visual short-hand for lower-tech and streamlined and sexy as visual short-hand for more high tech stuff.
So a Corvette looks more advanced than a Hummer?
Depends. The vehicle? Or an erect penis?
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