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Old June 5 2009, 01:59 PM   #1
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Save the Enterprise Brewery!

Am I the only one who thinks the new Enterprise engine room is great? For once we get a giant chamber that actually looks like engineering-related things go on in it (as opposed to the usual “people in pyjamas standing around pretending to push buttons in front of a big blue lava lamp”) and people complain!

For those saying it’s destroyed their precious “canon” think of this: What do you think is behind all those walls in Scotty’s old engine room (and the corridors off it)? Pipes, maybe? Could it be that without all the walls the other engine rooms might just have pipes everywhere? Remove the walls on the corridors on the levels above and you’re left with…catwalks over a giant chamber filled with pipes?
Honestly, if the “lack of visible power transfer conduits” (actual angry quote from a website) ruined the film for you, then…I don’t know.

I love the Enterprise Brewery, and hope to see more of it (and Keenser!) in Star Trek XII. I will be hugely disappointed if we get Scotty running in circles around a giant lava lamp in STXII. Anyone else?
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Old June 5 2009, 02:11 PM   #2
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Am I the only one who thinks the new Enterprise engine room is great? For once we get a giant chamber that actually looks like engineering-related things go on in it (as opposed to the usual “people in pyjamas standing around pretending to push buttons in front of a big blue lava lamp”) and people complain!

For those saying it’s destroyed their precious “canon” think of this: What do you think is behind all those walls in Scotty’s old engine room (and the corridors off it)? Pipes, maybe? Could it be that without all the walls the other engine rooms might just have pipes everywhere? Remove the walls on the corridors on the levels above and you’re left with…catwalks over a giant chamber filled with pipes?
Honestly, if the “lack of visible power transfer conduits” (actual angry quote from a website) ruined the film for you, then…I don’t know.

I love the Enterprise Brewery, and hope to see more of it (and Keenser!) in Star Trek XII. I will be hugely disappointed if we get Scotty running in circles around a giant lava lamp in STXII. Anyone else?
I like the concept they went with, but not the design. Frankly it looked cheap to me. Also I sort of agree and disagree about the warp core. I would rather see a new type of warp core than to ditch the idea. Something like the engine in "Battlestar Galatica" would be nice. That or have a warp core that is so big that people can actually crawl around inside it.

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Old June 5 2009, 02:12 PM   #3
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Nope I love the engine room/brewery as well. Hope it sticks around for the sequel. No more lava lamps please
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Old June 5 2009, 02:15 PM   #4
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The brewery was passable. It worked for what it was supposed to be. It certainly isn't as great as some people make it out to be though and I wouldn't mind improvements
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Old June 5 2009, 03:36 PM   #5
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Old June 5 2009, 03:59 PM   #6
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Old June 5 2009, 04:00 PM   #7
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Why is Leonard bartending with no neck?
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Old June 5 2009, 04:08 PM   #8
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The brewery was passable. It worked for what it was supposed to be. It certainly isn't as great as some people make it out to be though and I wouldn't mind improvements
If I didn't know it was a brewery in advance I don't think I would of made the connection. This part of the movie/set design doesn't bother me in the least an IMO it's the best engineering has ever looked. I haven't seen all the Trek movies though....
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Old June 5 2009, 04:12 PM   #9
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Why is Leonard bartending with no neck?
You know, someone else said the same thing in another thread I posted this picture on. Actually, his neck is there, it's just a perspective thing I guess. In the original photo you don't see any more of the guys neck.
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Old June 5 2009, 04:40 PM   #10
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I knew going in that Engineering was going to look "different" to say the least. Even so, I was shocked at how cheap it looked. Just a random industrial space with a few flat screens sprinkled in to remind you that that this was supposed to be a spaceship. Was there no budget for set design?

I don't care about all the canon nonsense. I just expected something... futuristic, you know?
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Old June 5 2009, 04:49 PM   #11
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I think a compromise would be in order. When I was in the military and working in calibration, we certainly didn't keep the radiac stuff in the same room with the torque wrench stuff!


Where high energy stuff goes on, the clean room and "lava lamp" seems reasonable.

That being said, there has to be some plain old mechanical, chemical, and electrical processes involved in making a ship go and keeping her crew alive and healthy. Some of those processes and the engineering spaces they go on in could quite easily look more akin to 21st century industrial processes. Pipes is pipes, after all.
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Old June 5 2009, 04:51 PM   #12
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Personally, I liked the idea - but it needed far far more set dressing/CG extension to look anything LIKE the insides of a spaceship.
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Old June 5 2009, 05:35 PM   #13
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Lonemagpie wrote: View Post
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Can't imagine why he'd sue them.
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Old June 5 2009, 05:43 PM   #14
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I think Im in the minority, but I loved it too. Im also one of the few that loved the Kelvin engine room too with the guys rapelling down.
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Old June 5 2009, 05:46 PM   #15
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I don't have a problem with the water pipes in the engine room, I just have an issue with a lack of engine in the engine room.
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