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Old June 19 2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

Two weeks running I've tuned into L&O: UK and twice it's been a ripoff of early original L&O episodes.

Well acted and tweaked a bit, but all I can really say is

What's the point of watching this? At least do something fresh to this franchise.
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Old June 19 2009, 12:30 PM   #2
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

Yes, in that sense it is a ripoff, but it's not like it's secret or anything - the producers of the original and the UK version have stated that publicly numerous times. Apparently it's a contract issue of some sort.
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Old June 19 2009, 12:49 PM   #3
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

It's retarded that they aren't allowed to make new stories that would suit a UK Law and Order better.
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Old June 19 2009, 12:57 PM   #4
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

The French version of Law & Order: Criminal Intent also mirrors the original series. I don't quite see why they would think that it is a good idea, but ultimately I guess the American producers just want to stay in control of their franchise.
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Old June 19 2009, 01:11 PM   #5
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

How about something new? Like Law & Order: Iran.

In the criminal justice system there are two important groups: those who interpret the holy law and those who stone or execute you. These are their stor-... Uh, there are no stories for they have been banned.
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Old June 19 2009, 01:11 PM   #6
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

There is also an Russian version of Law & Order
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Old June 19 2009, 01:16 PM   #7
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

L&O Russia:
In the criminal justice system there are two seperate yet equally important groups: The informants who call attention to dissenters and the secret police who torture the suspects to get them to confess - these are their stories.
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Old June 19 2009, 02:22 PM   #8
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

The word to use here isn't the snide and overused "ripoff." A ripoff is an imitation done without the consent of the owners of the original property. These episodes are remakes of episodes of the original series.

Think of it as a sort of translation -- adapting the same stories so that they're more comprehensible to audiences from different cultures. Like the trend to do versions of Shakespeare plays updated to the modern world. (Not to mention that many of Shakespeare's plays were themselves modernized and Anglicized updates of tales from ancient history and mythology.) There's plenty of precedent; a number of successful American sitcoms, including All in the Family, Sanford and Son, and The Office, are Americanized remakes of British shows (though I don't know to what extent the same actual stories were used). This past season's Life on Mars was an Americanized remake of the British show of the same name, and many of its episodes were moderately faithful adaptations of the stories from the original series. The Power Rangers franchise is an adaptation of the Japanese Super Sentai franchise, and many of its story and character arcs have been fairly faithful adaptations of the originals, sometimes more than others.
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Old June 19 2009, 02:40 PM   #9
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

Since Dick Wolf had a major role in the conception of L&O: UK I don't see how it could possibly be a "rip-off". Hopefully the next series will have some completely original stories in it (and proper actors).
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Old June 19 2009, 02:59 PM   #10
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

I used the word "rip-off" in the sense of that's how I felt because I've no incentive to watch something I've basically already seen twenty years ago when it was raw and fresh.
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Old June 19 2009, 03:02 PM   #11
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

Before the show even premiered everyone came out and said they would be using old USA scripts and just fixing them up a little to make some sense in the UK.

I guess most don't notice.
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Old June 19 2009, 03:03 PM   #12
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Re: Law & Order: UK...ripoff?

Warped9 wrote: View Post
I used the word "rip-off" in the sense of that's how I felt because I've no incentive to watch something I've basically already seen twenty years ago when it was raw and fresh.
I understand your point - it is ridiculous that they were stuck remaking L&O episodes, and I don't really understand why the contract allowed only this. Especially since a number of them really didn't translate that well to the UK and had me squirming a bit watching them.
I really hope they get a better chance to be original next year.
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Old June 19 2009, 03:06 PM   #13
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I think they should be doing this same thing with Star Trek - new Russian versions of "The Doomsday Machine" and all like that there. Pure revenue for CBS.
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Old June 19 2009, 03:37 PM   #14
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L&O recycles its own stories. THere are only so many crimes!
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Old June 19 2009, 04:47 PM   #15
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Yeah, they apparently had to drop one of the ones they were planning to do because there was no way they could make it work in the UK justice system.

I don't watch the American version, I tried but couldn't get in to it, but I do quite like the UK version.
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