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Old June 11 2009, 07:18 PM   #16
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

I guess I'm the only one here who thought MI:2 was the best. So much that I brought it on Blu Ray.
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Old June 11 2009, 07:27 PM   #17
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

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I wonder what the unused Oliver Stone Mission: Impossible 2 idea was. The unused Joe Carnahan Mission: Impossible 3 idea probably doesn't fit with this franchise.
I recall hearing something about organ traders (the Carnaghan version). Doesn't sound like summer blockbuster material but that's what I remember the talk being at the time.

I can't remember what the Stone MI2 would have been about. I think it may have been the same plot as the Woo movie.
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Old June 11 2009, 07:49 PM   #18
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

Here's a description of what Stone's script was reported to be about:

Stone's script (is said to have) featured a straight-ahead narrative pitching Ethan Hunt's IMF team against a sentient super computer -- which has convinced the rest of the world IMF are the bad guys.
And here's Joe Carnahan talking about his version of Mission: Impossible III:

"Were we going to do something that would have kicked the s**t out of the movie they wound up doing? Absolutely. I'm not even going to shy away from that. I know the film we made was going to be better because I thought it was important. And the movie we were making was about private military and what's going on in Africa.

"I had Kenneth Branagh playing a guy who's based on Timothy McVeigh. And I think the cast that we had--Ken, Carrie-Anne Moss, Scarlett Johansson--that's the biggest heartbreak for me because I saw how amazing they would have been.

"If you would have seen Carrie-Anne Moss move with a handgun after a month and a half, it would have blown your mind.

"And we had flat-out the two best mask reveals in the franchise history. Like those mask pulls dealt with major plot stuff. They weren't just these cartoony things."
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Old June 11 2009, 07:59 PM   #19
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IMO MI3 was the best of the bunch.

Can't wait for MI4
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Old June 11 2009, 08:51 PM   #20
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I'd be surprised if he directed. I'd imagine JJ will try to use his Star Trek clout to do something more original (in which he'd have a bigger stake).
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Old June 11 2009, 08:56 PM   #21
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

I've enjoyed the movies just fine, my least favorite is part 2 but still pretty good.
I'm not knowledgebale on the old TV show so I'm sure that helps. It seems clear though that Ethan Hunt was/is Cruise's way of being a Bond or Bourne type character.

I'll await details on an MI:4 before I dismiss it off hand.
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Old June 11 2009, 10:26 PM   #22
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I've enjoyed the movies just fine, my least favorite is part 2 but still pretty good.
I'm not knowledgebale on the old TV show so I'm sure that helps. It seems clear though that Ethan Hunt was/is Cruise's way of being a Bond or Bourne type character.

I'll await details on an MI:4 before I dismiss it off hand.
Thats about it. It is not that MI movie franchise is bad, but it is not really too much like the series. There really wasn't a main character in the sense of screen time, Jim Phelps was the team leader but often other characters had more screen time or much more important parts to play in the mission.
The movie franchise is very much a Bond or Bourne type adventure, where as the series is more like, what if Q branch had to actually do the missions.

There are probably more gun fights in one movie than in an entire season of the show.

The only real problem I have is that the movie franchise probably killed any chance of a movie or new series like the original tv show.
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Old June 11 2009, 10:56 PM   #23
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

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The first film is the only one that is any good. The second is a flashy James Bond knock-off with a convoluted plot. The third is too similar to the first film, with Abram's Alias influence.

Really, what I'd like to see is an entire movie that replicates the team mission aspect of the first 20 minutes of the first film. The sequels have been all too much of Hunt on his own for my taste.
The real problem is that the best Mission Impossible movie is the Soderbergh version of Ocean's 11...
No the best Mission Impossible film is Sneakers!
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Old June 11 2009, 11:53 PM   #24
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My favorite MI film was the third one, but I hope they reboot it, redeem the Jim Phelps character and make it about a team again.
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Old June 12 2009, 01:22 PM   #25
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

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here's Joe Carnahan talking about his version of Mission: Impossible III:

"Were we going to do something that would have kicked the s**t out of the movie they wound up doing? Absolutely. I'm not even going to shy away from that. I know the film we made was going to be better because I thought it was important. And the movie we were making was about private military and what's going on in Africa.

"I had Kenneth Branagh playing a guy who's based on Timothy McVeigh. And I think the cast that we had--Ken, Carrie-Anne Moss, Scarlett Johansson--that's the biggest heartbreak for me because I saw how amazing they would have been.

"If you would have seen Carrie-Anne Moss move with a handgun after a month and a half, it would have blown your mind.

"And we had flat-out the two best mask reveals in the franchise history. Like those mask pulls dealt with major plot stuff. They weren't just these cartoony things."
Off topic, but this bodes well for Carnaghan's version of The A-Team.
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Old June 12 2009, 04:06 PM   #26
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They'll say it was a guy in a mask and the real Jim has been held captive for 14 years.
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Old June 12 2009, 04:15 PM   #27
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Another one? I've seen the first two, skipped the third, probably skip this one too. I can't comment on how good/bad the third movie is although I do recall the report that they had a lot of Scientologists buying large numbers of tickets to boost the ticket sales. Sounds a bit outrageous, but then so does Xenu.
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Old June 12 2009, 05:04 PM   #28
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

I thought the third was the best of the lot, but I'd have second thoughts about watching any Tom Cruise movie after seeing that Scientology video interview he did.

I'd also like to see a movie that was more in line with the TV series, a team of agents, all with specialist skills, working together to execute a meticulously prepared plan, as opposed to what we get in the movies (one agent with some back up solves problems by shooting people and hanging off a wire).


Oh yes. That guy in the first film, played by Jon Voight? Not Jim Phelps. When the CIA absorbed the IMF Phelps retired. The CIA, realising the value of his reputation, passed off one of their own people as Phelps. Over the course of years he got lost in the false identity, and ended up going loopy, before dying when his helicopter crashed in the Channel Tunnel.

Tragic.

At least, that's my version of events, and I'm sticking to it.
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Old June 12 2009, 05:47 PM   #29
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Re: Abrams and Cruise Reuniting for Mission: Impossible 4

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The real problem is that the best Mission Impossible movie is the Soderbergh version of Ocean's 11...
Quoted for truth.

Can we have JJ Abrams but not Tom Cruise? That way I might actually go see it....
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Old June 12 2009, 05:54 PM   #30
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I thought Paramount weren't having Cruise back for more MI?
Yeah, that's what struck me too, anyone have the scoop on this?
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