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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: new SAREK
Mark Lenard is Sarek...but I like this new one too 26 89.66%
Awful casting!!! or as some might say CASTING VIOLATION! 3 10.34%
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Old June 10 2009, 10:15 PM   #31
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

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Crawss was ok, but Lioanoaaerd was the bestest Sorak.
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Old June 10 2009, 10:16 PM   #32
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I wasn't even thinking about Mark Lenard the first time I saw the movie. Cross definitely wasn't a distraction.
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Old June 10 2009, 10:27 PM   #33
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Ben Cross did a magnificent job as Sarek in the new movie...but I'll always be a major Mark Lenard fan and prefer his portrayal of the ambassador.
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Old June 10 2009, 10:49 PM   #34
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I think the comparison is a bit unfair since the characters were portrayed as being in quite different situations.

Lenard's Sarek was always in control, his appearances were always business-related, i.e. diplomacy etc, the whole personal relationships to Amanda and/or Spock were treated on the side.

In STXI, Sarek almost exclusively had to focus on his personal issues, he had no other role than as father to Spock, therefore, of course he can't bring the gravitas of a seaoned diplomat into his portrayal. And let's not forget, not only did Spock lose his mother, but Sarek lost his beloved wife (something Lenard's Sarek didn't have to deal with on screen) - that's having a huge impact on his character which Cross manages to portray quite well IMO.
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Old June 10 2009, 10:54 PM   #35
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I did not like Cross as Sarek the first go round. I missed Mark Lenard.

After my third viewing, I have come to accept him in the role. When he admitted to loving Amanda, he won me over a bit.

However, I will always love Mark Lenard's Sarek.

I was so excited to see him on TNG. He we always be Sarek to me.
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Old June 10 2009, 10:57 PM   #36
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Ironically, Spock and Sarek's relationship is one of the few things faring decidedly better in NuTrek than in Trek Prime.

I wasn't impressed with Xross's performance, and he's defintely no LeFleur, but I could see him growing into the part in future portrayals.
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Old June 10 2009, 11:28 PM   #37
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I remember someone bitching before the movie came out that Krosses face was too long compared to Marchk Lenords.
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Old June 11 2009, 03:15 AM   #38
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

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I thought Bein Crauss did a fine job, an ample successor to Maerc Leinahrrd's seminal character
Seminal character?? I was getting ready to ask when did Mahrc Lennaerd ever play an ape, but then it hit me.
Seminal? I thought this was a Trek thread and not a porn discussion.
I digress. Clearly, M'aarek Lyneryd is the superior Sairyk........
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Old June 11 2009, 03:25 AM   #39
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Ben Cross - 6.5/10
Mark Lenard - 10/10

Mark Lenard is hands down, the best Vulcan other than Nimoy's Spock. He was just spot-on.
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Old June 11 2009, 03:33 AM   #40
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Mark Lenard was definitely the better Sarek, but Ben Cross was fine. My biggest problem with Cross, though, is that he is too old to be playing Sarek. In TOS, the Sarek who was a few years older (at 102) looked much younger than this Sarek. He looked like a man in his 40's, not his 60's. It was especially disconcerting when he was in the scene with Kid Spock.

And please learn to spell Lenard the right way. LENARD. The misspellings are giving me a migraine!

And what's with spelling CROSS wrong? Jeez!
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Old June 11 2009, 04:14 AM   #41
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

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Old June 11 2009, 04:42 AM   #42
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Arlo wrote: View Post
Crawss was ok, but Lioanoaaerd was the bestest Sorak.

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Ben Cross did a magnificent job as Sarek in the new movie...but I'll always be a major Mark Lenard fan and prefer his portrayal of the ambassador.
I agree. Mark Lenard WAS Sarek. Anyone else, not just Ben Cross, had a very difficult standard to achieve.
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Old June 11 2009, 04:49 AM   #43
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

^ Agreed. Although I still think he did a capable job. I think, given more time, he can become stronger in his role.


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Old June 11 2009, 05:50 AM   #44
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

cross was the casting i was least pleased with.
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Old June 11 2009, 07:34 AM   #45
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Ben Cross did a good job. He filled the role admirably and i hope to see him in other trek films. That being said, no one can hold a candle to Mark Lenard and what he brought to the role. Mark just made that character his. He had the presence and the gravitas to own the role of Sarek. I'm sure the entire screen time of Mark as Sarek was probably less than William Shatner in a single episode of Trek, but he MADE that character, and everyone else in the role will have to measure up to the best.
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