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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: new SAREK
Mark Lenard is Sarek...but I like this new one too 26 89.66%
Awful casting!!! or as some might say CASTING VIOLATION! 3 10.34%
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Old June 10 2009, 07:39 AM   #1
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Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I haven't seen any posts made about Spock's father yet, although he did have a minor role in the film. He also did in the previous Kirk era movies, but how did you think Ben Cross's portrayal of Sarek played out to be? I think he did very well, he was a good Sarek for the movie but like Spock, Leanord had the voice and stemina to play the character.
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Old June 10 2009, 07:45 AM   #2
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
I haven't seen any posts made about Spock's father yet, although he did have a minor role in the film. He also did in the previous Kirk era movies, but how did you think Ben Cross's portrayal of Sarek played out to be? I think he did very well, he was a good Sarek for the movie but like Spock, Leanord had the voice and stemina to play the character.
Mark's name is spelled "Lenard"; I'm not sure why it gives so many people so much trouble.

Anyway, there were quite a number of comments made about Sarek and comparisons made between Ben Cross' portrayal and Lenard's in the pinned Grading & Discussion thread, as well as in other threads in this forum.
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Old June 10 2009, 07:46 AM   #3
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Leanord's Sarek always had this feel to him like you didn't want to cross him. Cross just looked sad.
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Old June 10 2009, 07:47 AM   #4
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Lenard?

I thought Ben Cross played Sarek very well. We all know there's no one who'll ever have a voice like Mark Lenard did. So no other Sarek actor could copy him - that's a given. Cross made the role his own, and did it well, IMHO.
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Old June 10 2009, 08:30 AM   #5
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Worst casting in the movie. He lacked the gravitas of Leonard and came off as both weak and lacking the aura of wisdom Leonard had.
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Old June 10 2009, 08:51 AM   #6
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I thought he did an excellent job with the small role he had, and while he is no Mark Lenard, he is Ben Cross, and he had to make it his role. I believe he did so admirably.

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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I think I might have liked Derek Jacobi as Sarek if we're going British thespian.
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Old June 10 2009, 09:09 AM   #8
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

He didnt do as well as the original, but in some ways I don't think it is a fair comparison. While an important role, it isn't a very large one so it is hard to compare the small amount of screen time Cross had with the more significant amount of screen time Lenard had
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Old June 10 2009, 12:03 PM   #9
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Mr. Owl, how many different spellings are there for "Lenard"? This thread is sure to find out.
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Old June 10 2009, 01:01 PM   #10
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I had no issue with Ben Cross's portrayal as Spock's father. But was he Mark Lenard's Sarek? Nope.
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Old June 10 2009, 01:16 PM   #11
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Crawss was ok, but Lioanoaaerd was the bestest Sorak.
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Old June 10 2009, 02:00 PM   #12
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

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Leanord's Sarek always had this feel to him like you didn't want to cross him. Cross just looked sad.
Time to start a "Badass Mark Lenard thread".
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Old June 10 2009, 03:25 PM   #13
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Like so many have said, he's no Mark Lenard, but I liked his performance. He seemed to carry the arrogance and emotionless of the adult Vulcan.
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Old June 10 2009, 03:31 PM   #14
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Mark Leonard carried himself like a wise aged Vulcan who walked into a room and people respected him just out of his mere presence.

Cross just came off as an arrogant jerk.
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Old June 10 2009, 03:34 PM   #15
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Re: Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

I've tried really hard not to rag on Pegg, Urban or Cross since they pretty much couldn't win having to follow such iconic (and beloved) performers who are no longer with us.

In Cross' case, I really don't think anyone could've managed to match what Mark brought to the role. But I really like what he did with Sarek. He made him more vulnerable and I liked his ability to admit the depth of his love for his wife to his son.
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