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Old June 28 2009, 08:33 PM   #1
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Why does Riker lean into corners?

Jonathan Frakes seems to have been born into a body a bit too big for him. He doesn't know how to use it and comes across as 'ungainly'. He doesn't stand tall and proud like Worf and seems uncomfortable in his skin, but I have especially noticed his cornering.

Riker will have his scene, usually with a pretty woman, say something 'witty', smile and nod, turn towards the door and do this bizarre 'drop shoulder into turn' thing as he exits. You can almost imagine him counting the steps before he has to turn. Watch out for it ~ I swear it to be true
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Old June 28 2009, 08:44 PM   #2
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

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Jonathan Frakes seems to have been born into a body a bit too big for him. He doesn't know how to use it and comes across as 'ungainly'. He doesn't stand tall and proud like Worf and seems uncomfortable in his skin, but I have especially noticed his cornering.

Riker will have his scene, usually with a pretty woman, say something 'witty', smile and nod, turn towards the door and do this bizarre 'drop shoulder into turn' thing as he exits. You can almost imagine him counting the steps before he has to turn. Watch out for it ~ I swear it to be true
I've noticed this, too! It is odd.
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Old June 28 2009, 08:50 PM   #3
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

It's like he's doing a subtle Jackie Gleason exit. See 5:28 below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQg-L-Rbp0
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Old June 28 2009, 09:04 PM   #4
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

Wasn't it because of some back injury he got as a moving man before acting?
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Old June 28 2009, 09:46 PM   #5
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

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Wasn't it because of some back injury he got as a moving man before acting?
Ah! Then that explains his generally odd posture.
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Old June 28 2009, 10:39 PM   #6
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

I remember reading somewhere that one of his shoulders is lower than the other (because of the back injury) so he tended to tilt one side of his body toward camera to hide it. He may be "leaning into corners" to further camouflage this as well. This may also be the reason why he leans on things a lot and perches with one leg propped up when visiting the forward bridge consoles too.

(I think that tidbit is in the TNG Companion but I may be mistaken. I have gotten old and my memory isn't what it used to be.)
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Old June 29 2009, 12:16 AM   #7
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

Gorn Captain wrote: View Post
It's like he's doing a subtle Jackie Gleason exit. See 5:28 below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQg-L-Rbp0
Now that is an exit And how do you know this old comedy?

Thanks all above, I'm glad I'm not the only one to see it Kes7. The back injury may well explain it. And AstroSmurf you're right he is always perching on things but instead of camouflaging it he emphasises it

Oh bless him, You would have thought a good doctor could have fixed that with a tricorder in no time
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Old June 29 2009, 12:42 AM   #8
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

This thread is interesting to me, I love Frakes, but have always been distracted by his strange physicality. The accident explanation clears it all up for me.
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Old June 29 2009, 12:50 AM   #9
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

one of his eyes is also a lot smaller than the other... or he squints it more or something... it's kind of similar to my friend who got hit on the side of her head with a baseball bat... now whenever she smiles or frowns, one eye squints, but the other one doesn't.
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Old June 29 2009, 12:51 AM   #10
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This thread is interesting to me, I love Frakes, but have always been distracted by his strange physicality. The accident explanation clears it all up for me.
I love this place because you can always get an answer

*runs off to look for really obscure question*

Oh no! Arasam22 why did you say that? Now I'm going to be looking at his eyes, I always thought he had a permanant 'wink thing' going on.
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Old June 29 2009, 01:33 AM   #11
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

No, it wasn't any sort of accident or injury. Just the Riker Mojo that drove the ladies mad.
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Old June 29 2009, 06:47 AM   #12
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

I like how Riker attempts to get through doors by head-butting them. It's a neat character trait, and definitely adds to the TNG drinking game.
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Old June 29 2009, 07:38 AM   #13
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I like how Riker attempts to get through doors by head-butting them. It's a neat character trait, and definitely adds to the TNG drinking game.


I think the injury was when he was shifting a wardrobe in his starving actor days. Look out for the teaser for Silicon Avatar when Data passes the child he is carrying to Riker. It's obvious the two men are struggling with back problems. Also, (although I still can't remember which epsiode it is) you can clearly see his back brace under his uniform jacket in one episode when he gets up from the briefing room table.
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Old June 29 2009, 09:42 AM   #14
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

Along the same vein, I find it odd the way he sits in chairs, especially in Ten forward.

He seems to climb over the back.
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Old June 29 2009, 03:36 PM   #15
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Re: Why does Riker lean into corners?

It's also an acting choice. Projected movements keep the eye on you, even when you're just walking out a door.

Watch Steve McQueen in "The Magnificent Seven," and you'll see what I mean.

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