The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind

Manisphere · May 8 2009, 12:59 AM

Encouraged by the popularity and favorable reviews for the Vanguard series, I've decided to take a chance. I have a question before I launch into the series. Why is Reap the Whirlwind so hard to find? It seems to be out of print while the first two Vanguard books are still in print and can be found at nearly every bookstore I go to. (I'm in Canada where ebay and the Amazon Marketplace make finding and shipping RtW kinda pricey)

Why is it out of print while the others are in print and selling well? I'm reticent to dive into the series when the third installment is such a pain to find. I don't want to miss a thing.

LightningStorm · May 8 2009, 01:03 AM

Reap the Whirlwind is out of print?!

But, yeah you definitely don't want to miss that one, all sorts of big and important stuff happens there.

David Mack · May 8 2009, 04:09 AM

^ The short answer is: a clerical error.

There was a mismatch between an ordering number for retailers and the book's ISBN, and it wasn't caught until very recently. It apparently happened some time ago, resulting in a backlog of unfilled retailer orders for the book.

I was told it would be fixed by now, but the wheels of progress turn very slowly in such a large organization as Simon & Schuster.

Manisphere · May 8 2009, 07:54 AM

Well that sucks.

It is good to know there will more in the bookstores eventually. Thanks David Mack.

nickyboy · May 8 2009, 02:37 PM

I bought one of Amazon market place for 20 pounds about two weeks ago, as I had to find out what happens!! To compound matters it was actually my third copy of Reap the Whirlwind that I had bought! The first one I left in the pocket in front of your seat on a flight to Amsterdam and the second copy was destroyed when my backpack got soaked in a rain strorm.

The copy I have now will not leave my house!!!

Dimesdan · May 9 2009, 12:51 AM

nickyboy wrote:

I bought one of Amazon market place for 20 pounds about two weeks ago, as I had to find out what happens!! To compound matters it was actually my third copy of Reap the Whirlwind that I had bought! The first one I left in the pocket in front of your seat on a flight to Amsterdam and the second copy was destroyed when my backpack got soaked in a rain strorm.

The copy I have now will not leave my house!!!

Lets just hope your house remains standing!

Well you can't be on a fault line in this country, but are you on a flood plain or the like?

Manisphere · May 10 2009, 04:34 AM

My lucky day! I'm at the only used bookstore in town that sells tie-ins. They have shelves and shelves of Trek. They had only two David Mack novels. Warpath and Reap the Whirlwind! I grabbed them. 5 bucks each.

That kind of thing never happens to me.

nickyboy · May 11 2009, 03:27 PM

Yeah I am not tempting fate, I will finish book 2 tonight and then start book 3, hopefully nothing bad will happen!

John Clark · May 11 2009, 04:51 PM

I've made a habit of grabbing these as soon as I see them. There are a couple of other trek books I want that I didn't get straight away and now they're pretty expensive at the usual sources

- I'll have to have a look on Ebay.

Manisphere · May 12 2009, 01:17 PM

John Clark wrote:

I've made a habit of grabbing these as soon as I see them. There are a couple of other trek books I want that I didn't get straight away and now they're pretty expensive at the usual sources

- I'll have to have a look on Ebay.

I'm spoiled. I'm used to the Star Wars EU where no matter how poorly received your novel is, it's going to be on the shelf for at least a decade (or longer). There is a luxury in that for the writer and buyer. With Pocketbooks novels go out of print so quickly. This especially would be a problem with a series like Vanguard where for the time being, the third installment is a hard to find. I've never used ebay and the Amazon Marketplace so much in my book shopping.

Procutus · May 13 2009, 01:58 AM

I've had RTW sitting on my shelf for quite awhile but hadn't gotten around to reading it yet. Then I spotted Open Secrets over the weekend and decided I needed to catch up. I just started RTW last night; I'd forgotten how good this series is.

JWolf · May 14 2009, 02:51 PM

Have you checked with your local library to see if they have Read the Whirlwind?

jeffers1970 · May 14 2009, 03:54 PM

I'm having the same issue. I came to Vanguard late, as I usually only read the main Trek stuff (TOS, TNG, & DS9, VOY...with ENT suddenly in that mix lately!), but decided to give Vanguard a go and LOVE it. But it's driving me batty that I can't find Reap the Whirlwind.

Evidently, a couple of retailers have taken note...check this out:

http://www.amazon.com/Reap-Whirlwind...2312658&sr=8-2

I love the series...but not that much!

Astraea · May 14 2009, 09:41 PM

Hey, I'm not the only person having this problem! I ordered it several months ago and I *still* have it on backorder with Amazon proper, because, as much as I love my Star Trek novels, I'm not paying $71.00 plus shipping to a secondhand bookshop. Hopefully they'll fix it soon...I need to decide if I want to buy Open Secrets.

JWolf · May 14 2009, 11:17 PM

The only other suggestion is to purchase the eBook for a lot less then used copies of the paperback.

May 8 2009, 12:59 AM	#1
Manisphere Lieutenant Commander Location: Canada	The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Encouraged by the popularity and favorable reviews for the Vanguard series, I've decided to take a chance. I have a question before I launch into the series. Why is Reap the Whirlwind so hard to find? It seems to be out of print while the first two Vanguard books are still in print and can be found at nearly every bookstore I go to. (I'm in Canada where ebay and the Amazon Marketplace make finding and shipping RtW kinda pricey) Why is it out of print while the others are in print and selling well? I'm reticent to dive into the series when the third installment is such a pain to find. I don't want to miss a thing.

May 8 2009, 01:03 AM	#2
LightningStorm The Borg King Location: Kansas City	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Reap the Whirlwind is out of print?! But, yeah you definitely don't want to miss that one, all sorts of big and important stuff happens there. __________________ Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. (Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-68))

May 8 2009, 04:09 AM	#3
David Mack Writer Location: New York, NY	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind ^ The short answer is: a clerical error. There was a mismatch between an ordering number for retailers and the book's ISBN, and it wasn't caught until very recently. It apparently happened some time ago, resulting in a backlog of unfilled retailer orders for the book. I was told it would be fixed by now, but the wheels of progress turn very slowly in such a large organization as Simon & Schuster. __________________ ~ David Mack \| "Where were you when the page was blank?" — Truman Capote Join me on Facebook & Twitter

May 8 2009, 07:54 AM	#4
Manisphere Lieutenant Commander Location: Canada	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Well that sucks. It is good to know there will more in the bookstores eventually. Thanks David Mack.

May 8 2009, 02:37 PM	#5
nickyboy Fleet Captain Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind I bought one of Amazon market place for 20 pounds about two weeks ago, as I had to find out what happens!! To compound matters it was actually my third copy of Reap the Whirlwind that I had bought! The first one I left in the pocket in front of your seat on a flight to Amsterdam and the second copy was destroyed when my backpack got soaked in a rain strorm. The copy I have now will not leave my house!!! __________________ "Now if this cross examination is over, I'd like to take a crap" Romo Lampkin - The Son Also Rises

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May 10 2009, 04:34 AM	#7
Manisphere Lieutenant Commander Location: Canada	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind My lucky day! I'm at the only used bookstore in town that sells tie-ins. They have shelves and shelves of Trek. They had only two David Mack novels. Warpath and Reap the Whirlwind! I grabbed them. 5 bucks each. That kind of thing never happens to me.

May 11 2009, 03:27 PM	#8
nickyboy Fleet Captain Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Yeah I am not tempting fate, I will finish book 2 tonight and then start book 3, hopefully nothing bad will happen! __________________ "Now if this cross examination is over, I'd like to take a crap" Romo Lampkin - The Son Also Rises

May 11 2009, 04:51 PM	#9
John Clark Commodore	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind I've made a habit of grabbing these as soon as I see them. There are a couple of other trek books I want that I didn't get straight away and now they're pretty expensive at the usual sources - I'll have to have a look on Ebay. __________________ If there's a justification for my actions right now, it's this: I have gone completely mad

May 13 2009, 01:58 AM	#11
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind I've had RTW sitting on my shelf for quite awhile but hadn't gotten around to reading it yet. Then I spotted Open Secrets over the weekend and decided I needed to catch up. I just started RTW last night; I'd forgotten how good this series is. __________________ "When I became Doctor Who, I didn't play Doctor Who, I was Doctor Who. There was no acting involved at all." - Tom Baker

May 14 2009, 02:51 PM	#12
JWolf Commodore Location: Massachusetts, USA	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Have you checked with your local library to see if they have Read the Whirlwind? __________________ Jon

May 14 2009, 03:54 PM	#13
jeffers1970 Cadet Location: Orlando, FL	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind I'm having the same issue. I came to Vanguard late, as I usually only read the main Trek stuff (TOS, TNG, & DS9, VOY...with ENT suddenly in that mix lately!), but decided to give Vanguard a go and LOVE it. But it's driving me batty that I can't find Reap the Whirlwind. Evidently, a couple of retailers have taken note...check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Reap-Whirlwind...2312658&sr=8-2 I love the series...but not that much!

May 14 2009, 09:41 PM	#14
Astraea Commander Location: Buried under a pile of work.	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind Hey, I'm not the only person having this problem! I ordered it several months ago and I still have it on backorder with Amazon proper, because, as much as I love my Star Trek novels, I'm not paying $71.00 plus shipping to a secondhand bookshop. Hopefully they'll fix it soon...I need to decide if I want to buy Open Secrets. __________________ Avatar credit: wicked_visions on livejournal.

May 14 2009, 11:17 PM	#15
JWolf Commodore Location: Massachusetts, USA	Re: The Trouble with Reap the Whirlwind The only other suggestion is to purchase the eBook for a lot less then used copies of the paperback. __________________ Jon